What grade do you give this 1921 Morgan (crappy auction photo)

This auction has ended. I'm just wondering what others thought. How much credit do you give it?

 

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Crappy photo, crappy grade.....xf-45.

 

aye, that's what I was thinking.... My curiosity peaked when somebody ended up bidding on it like it would grade ms-64 or higher.

 

There's a sizable plurality of buyers out there who don't realize the difference between an 1878 and a 1921 Morgan....

 

I give it credit for trying, with photos like that. I'm seeing wear, too, so EF, in that neighborhood, best I can say.

 

Woe to him/her. These issues are like stars in the sky and can be had in stellar condition for a most reasonable price. Looks like some bloke is gonna be cut off at the legs.........knees

 

I'm not sure what I'm seeing. The holder and the images are messing with the actual look of the coin. I could see it being AU something.

 

AU - for sure more XF end but there may be room for AU

 

A bidding war gone bad or one bidiot and one shill. Do you have a link to the auction?

 

Technical mid-high AU but if the luster is as far gone as it seems it would net XF. That said we are viewing a 1921 which are known for lack of luster, through a flip. That plastic can play tricks with luster in photos.

 

Are you saying there's a difference?

 

Looks low AU to me. There is quite a bit of luster there for EF.

 

I reckon that's a large part of why I'm curious. Being a 1921, it wasn't a huge amount anyways. Something just didn't feel right, I figured I could get opinions of those with more experience. (and you guys are awesome, ty for helping)

http://bid.aumannauctions.com/view-.../?url=/view-auctions/catalog/id/14292/?page=4

 

You never mentioned that the auction included two coins, not one....

 

The auction is two coins, but I wasn't very curious about the '22 peace dollar. That coin seems pretty cut and dry (destined for somebody's bullion pile).

 

Despite the fact that a 1922-S Peace is worth more than a 1921-P Morgan in similar grade.

Point being, my previous opinion was predicated on your mention that the auction ended with an obviously-AU 1921 Morgan hammering at MS64 money. It did just that, but for that money the winner got two coins. Would have altered my opinion, had I known. The two of them for $70 is a bit out of whack but not terribly so. That Morgan alone for $70 is a bidiot move.

 

Yeah, the winning bid for the two coins is about a 12 pack of decent beer too high.

I apologize for this somewhat corny reply but my post count was sitting at 666 and I needed a quick post.

 

There are far worse reasons to post too much.

 

I just spent too much time looking for a little devil in the smiley list ;p

Aye, I understand what you are saying. If the bidder took the auctioneer's AU marks as truth the price is about right, but I don't see anything to indicate the peace dollar is even near to AU. Both "One" and "Peace" on the reverse are pretty much worn away (could be lighting - I dunno).

I guess, for full disclosure, I can say where I was at on this (my thought process- see if it makes sense or I should adjust).
I was interested because I am close enough to self pick-up and avoid additional fees. I was also already bidding on other lots. I figured this lot and the next (a 22d and 23d peace) might be at the high end already when I bid 45 and 35 ($99 including premium; 24.75/coin). I wasn't terribly surprised when the bid was upped. At $55 and $45 (30.25/coin) I figured the value could still be there. Then I hit this lot once at $65 before hammer (um...cause I like to gamble?).

After seeing the other bidder with max bid set at least at $70, I was wondering if I missed something or assessed the situation poorly.

Aye, sorry, it's not even a ball-busting situation. I'm just new to this online bidding stuffs. I figure by analyzing this now, it could save me money later on with more valuable coins.

 

In my opinion the only thing you missed out on was over-paying.