1922 Peace dollar

Hey all First I want to say happy holidays to everyone and hope all is well. I have been blessed recently after 4 long years of fighting my wife's disability case we finally won so now I'm able to start stacking silver and collecting a few pieces that I want here and there. I was at a local pawn shop and picked this and a few other peace dollars up and I got to checking them out under the scope and found this peace dollar that has a die crack running through the rays/tiara and also 2 die cracks running through the neck area. I've heard of VAM's but never really got into them but from what limited knowledge I have there are a lot. I am not sure about this one are die cracks on peace dollars a part of VAMS or are they just die cracks like any other coins. If there is someone that can educate me more and or point me to a decent reference guide I'd appreciate it.

 

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Here is a link to 1922 Peace Dollar VAMs. http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/Peace_Dollar_VAMs

 

Die break across the neck looks like 1922 p VAM 2EF.

 

I had to search for it. What a hassle. LOL.
1922-P VAM-2EF - VAMWorld

 

Not much into VAM's but those pictures are quite splendid. If there's a 'vam' to be found your pictures make well the job done......

 

Kudos to @Sting 60 for isolating the referrant VAM. Good job, Sir!

IMO…based on over 20 researches on various Morgans and Peace S$1…

Die cracks in and of themselves can be intrinsically valuable numismatically but the crack presentation is usually prominent or strategically placed on the coin.
Normally, however, die cracks serve as die markers to aid the identification and confirmation of the die marriage.

Messieurs Van Allen and Mallis took many years of research and labors of love to create their Encyclopedia and most collectors agree their work is worthy of the label “definitive”. To be sure, many contemporary numismatists have contributed additional research data that has improved the overall database, but as a starting point you really can’t get much better than a hardcopy of the encyclopedia and/or consulting the online VAM database.

 

All I can do is observe, but that is not the same die crack pictured for VAM-2EF. In the one pictured, the crack is a little higher on the left side of the neck and then goes upwards almost touching the W. It does look really close though at first glance. The OP coin also has an additional crack between 19.

 

http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1922-P_VAM-2EO looks closer but still not it.

 

Yeah I'm not seeing any like this anywhere I've looked. I wonder if it might be a new one. Are there any people who still attribute VAMS?

 

Correct vam

 

Yep with the crack and no die gouge.

 

You might send that to VSS or @messydesk

 

I still say close but no cigar. The crack out the back of Liberty's neck goes through T in a different spot, and the spike at the eagle's right shoulder is not in the same place. Many of the listings do not have full coin images so it's hard to tell if this is a late die state of another VAM, but you'd think they would have imaged such a monster crack. I would submit it. Seems like another new one was just posted here or maybe over at NGC forum so they're still actively listing them (might have been a Morgan that I saw).

 

It was an 1896 Morgan that No regrets had posted here.

 

Die cracks like those shown are usually not cataloged on their own in the VAM catalog. They have to be much stronger or more damaging to the die than these. They can be used as markers on other VAMs that have been cataloged for other features or for stronger die breaks. It is possible that this is an earlier die stage of a VAM that has already been listed, but without looking through the (too) many 1922 Peace dollar varieties, I can't tell you if it is. New Peace dollar VAMs are being listed by David Close now that Leroy has retired. I'm maintaining the Morgan dollar part of the VAM catalog.

 

I'll hang on to it and when I get some time I'll send it to someone.

 

I would look check it for the right rev. Then check the coin for other die markers. For example here is another crack from the Tiara to the field.

 

Good eye
http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1922-P_VAM-2U2

 

Thanks for that VAM number. I mentioned the die crack in the Tiara. I guess My wording on my OP did not convey well.

 

Please educate me on how you took such amazing pictures.