Is this a 1938 D/S buffalo nickel?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bugo, Dec 25, 2016.

  1. bugo

    bugo Well-Known Member

    Somebody on another thread said this might be a D/S nickel. It's hard to tell by looking at it even through reading glasses AND a magnifying glass. I can't get any closer pictures (this is a seller's picture) so this is the best I can do. It's slabbed as a D.

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  3. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    I'm not seeing it.
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't see a D over S, either. Which company slabbed it?

    Chris
     
  5. bugo

    bugo Well-Known Member

  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Look in the center of the "D." If you see a tiny little horizontal dash it is one of the varieties but I believe that particular one may not be recognized anymore. I guess if the dash is there, PCGS still does but these are worth very little premium over a normal coin.
     
  7. Ericred

    Ericred Active Member

    I can see a small upward curve and below that a downward curved line, I saw it after zooming in and using a 15x loop, I would have thought the matks would be larger. I have a few coins with # over # but their more pronounced, I'm new to collecting with a purpose I used to buy coins after researching or collecting from friends and family and a side job emptying homes out-long story short, everyone knows more than me on this subject and all others
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It is a D. You can tell that simply by knowing what to look for. In a D/S, there is an S under the D. That is what you look for. Therefore, if you do not see an S under the D, it cannot be a D/S. That does not mean it is a D, as it could be a D/D. What you look for, there, is not an S under the D, but a D under the D. If you see that, or an S under the D, it would be of great help to us if you would point that out on the coin. Or, in the alternative, describe it to us. Likewise, anybody who suggests same ought to be held to the same standard of persuasion. Otherwise, it is plausible, they are pixilated. You know, like this guy...

     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I'm the poster who questioned if this specimen was an D/S as another member also questioned the specimen being a omm or a rpm. If the op had replied to the original thread with better images it could of been determined in that thread. As" insider " has stated there was an omm that was de listed on some sights and still listed on others where the S does not show on the out side of the D. In fact I own one, as I have a short set of 1938 D's that are either omm's or rpm's listed for the 38 D Buffalo nickel.
    There's is something within the D of the op coin. Be it another mm or die chips ,plus mm placement on the varieties known.
     
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  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Notice the 3 images below where the underlying mm does not protrude the over lying mm. However parts of the underlying mm are seen through the over lying mint marks.
     

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  12. HOWARD GOTKIN

    HOWARD GOTKIN Member

    As SGT. SHULTZ used to say from the TV Show HOGAN'S HEROES.

    I SEE NOTHING!! I SEE NOTHING!.jpg
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I was the other member who thought I saw a diagonal marking inside the D. As @Paddy54 said, I also see something inside the D, whatever it may be.
     
  14. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    Not a D/S or D/D or any of the other varieties of overmintmark on this issue.
     
  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Well then this is great. If you can maybe make the picture bigger and point it out, that would help. I can see the varieties in the 3 examples @Paddy54 gave and of course we're looking for just pieces most of the time but I'll be darned if I can see anything in this darn thing, and I think I got pretty good eyesight. Just show us what you both are seeing, that would help.
     
  16. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your examples @Paddy54. Along with @eddiespin I just can't see anything in the OP photo.
    Steve
     
  17. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    BTW, that OP coin is one pretty nickel if the color in hand is true to the photo.
    Steve
     
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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I would love to blow the pic up for ya'll, but when I do I lose all clarity in the photo.
    If you save the image, and crop it your self you will see the so called dash, Insider spoke of. I see the center of an S in the middle field of the D. As most of us know an in hand examination is the only way to determine if it is lighting artifact or not.
    For example my 55 d/s is extremely hard to capture with a camera.
     
  19. Dale Lassiter

    Dale Lassiter Active Member

  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I see it, now. Those faint, inside lines are on the planchet. They're toning. If they were outlines of part of the S, that area would be raised. Here's the D/S on PCGS CoinFacts: http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/3985. Do you see how those are raised?
     
  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    At a quick glance it looked like this. upload_2016-12-26_18-23-44.png
    This omm -003 is classified as DDR-001 also. Even if this is not an omm. It wouldn't be the first time I found an RPM in a non labeled holder.
     
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