The Giant Full Step Jefferson Nickel GTG Thread

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lehigh96, Dec 10, 2024.

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Please vote for each coin that has FS

  1. 1) 1938-D

    14.3%
  2. 2) 1939-D R38

    9.5%
  3. 3) 1941-D

    81.0%
  4. 4) 1942-P

    38.1%
  5. 5) 1943-P

    76.2%
  6. 6) 1943-S #1

    38.1%
  7. 7) 1943-S #2

    33.3%
  8. 8) 1945-P

    57.1%
  9. 9) 1982-P

    33.3%
  10. 10) 1983-D

    66.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @Lehigh96 grading can sure be exciting and frustrating all in one. I've been there several times.

    With that 1983 above, did you submit it as an error or as a normal sub? I would think if you did not select error, they should not put error on the label (I've seen a few PCGS graded coins that were clear errors but not noted since the person did not submit under the error tier).
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What I want to know is does the coin have a slight railroad rim. As an error coin it should retain some nice value. Too late now.
     
  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I think the value is still in the grade; when you get to these upper levels, the registry matters more and if you can't include, that really hurts the value.
     
  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I submitted it as a standard submission to NGC thinking that it had a very minor misaligned die error. NGC graded the coin as a partial error without my request or payment, then gave it a grade of MS68 5FS. It is important to keep in mind that the highest graded 1983-P prior to my submission was MS66 5FS. They didn't want to give a coin that had a very minor error a top pop grade so they simply slapped the error on the coin. At the very least, I should have been given an explanation, but they don't do that. My efforts to correct the situation were basically met with "this coin will never be straight graded, end of discussion"

    After my success with my 1943/2-P that PCGS graded MS66FS (NGC UNC Details Wheel Mark), I just said hell with it, cracked the coin out of its MS68 5FS graded holder and submitted it raw to PCGS and there is no request for an error designation. My expectation is that PCGS will straight grade the coin as either MS66+FS or MS67FS. If they grade it as a partial collar error, I might have to take some time off from coins.


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    The error is very slight and the coin is by far the best 1983-P I have ever seen. I still can't believe that NGC did what they did, and I can't imagine that PCGS would follow suit.
     
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  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    As a top pop registry coin, it is worth thousands. As an error coin, I would be lucky to get $500 since it doesn't qualify for inclusion in the registry.

    Bingo!
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Hopefully PCGS gives it the grade it deserves. I would not have called it an error as it is barely noticeable (like you mentioned).
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thats a Fantastic coin, it deserves every bit of 68 5FS.
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    So here is the problem with the coin, the surfaces are a little hazy, and that in combination with the EDS, it just doesn't have the luster that PCGS usually requires for an MS67 or better for a modern coin. The subpar luster is the only reason I think it might grade MS66+FS. That said, I have never seen any 1983-P with a strike like this one. The sharpness of the steps and definition of the details of Monticello are off the charts, they rival a proof coin.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I can see that in the photos. I was looking at this 40S earlier it nearly doubles the auction price of any other 67+FS. But look at that strike.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/a/1271-4437.s
     
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