The Giant FS Jefferson Nickel GTG Coin #8: 1945-P

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Guess the Assigned Grade Coin #8

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-64

  3. MS65

  4. MS66

  5. MS67

  6. Other (Please Explain in Comments)

  7. FS (Full Steps)

  8. NOT FS

  9. + Grade

  10. * Designation

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Please guess the grade of the 1945-P Jefferson Nickel shown below. I have attached a poll for you to cast your vote and you may select up to 3 different things: the numerical grade, FS or NOT FS, and + grade or star designation.

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    Please don't forget to vote in the poll, and as always, comments welcome.
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This one has a shot at 67.
    Looks like they spent a bit of time trying to get rid of a clash or some PIDT
    MS66+ FS
     
  5. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    MS66+ FS. I’m leaning into the 5 step being defined enough. Light abrasions on the obverse with a little chatter on the outer devices for the reverse. Almost a 67.
     
  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Don't forget to vote in the poll.
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 66 5FS ...I see some die polish lines and suggestions of it being semi-pl but I don't think there is enough there for a star designation....also some spotting and a larger hit on the reverse prevents it from getting to 67
     
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Those are polish lines on the obverse?? It doesn't hurt the grade?
     
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  9. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I think it depends a bit on the reviewers. Some may be distracted by something that another reviewer is OK with. Normally, die maintenance shouldn't affect the grade (like removing a clash), but may affect desirability (unless you're a variety hunter). These anomalies precede the dings, dents, and chatter that come after coining.
     
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  10. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    That one dink on the reverse is the killer I almost said 64/64+ because of it but went with MS65FS and on that note I did give it Full Steps but only because he included the close up the full reverse pic. The other reverse pic not quite clear enough to show it well :D
     
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  11. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

  12. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Went with my gut on this one. 67*FS

    You got robbed on like 4 of these but I feel this one gets a boost for the eye appeal and semi PL surfaces. Only thing distracting to me was the carbon spots on Monticello which make me think 66 but with them being on reverse I think the obverse keeps this at 67.
     
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  13. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    You raise a point that sometimes, or at least more often with War Nickels, causes me to hesitate. Laminations and discoloration (not really carbon spots, but staining and streaks in the planchet). Do graders get bothered by these or look past them? I don’t see consistency, especially with many of the specimens Lehigh posts. At least, consistency that appears present in other years and denominations. Maybe it’s just me…
     
  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @Lehigh96 I think you forgot the reveal on this coin #8 post.
     
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Must have forgot to hit enter, sorry bout that!
     
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  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    REVEAL: 1945-P Jefferson Nickel NGC MS66

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    And to everyone's great surprise, NGC did not award the coin full steps. Nobody got this one, and only two people agreed that the coin should not have full steps.
     
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  17. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Very Nice! I almost had it. That's why I'm broke. :(
     
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Maybe NGC was running low on ink and needed to omit the extra characters in full steps...:banghead:
     
  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Is anyone keeping track of how many got full steps?
     
  20. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm going back to look but it is much fewer than I had figured originally.
     
  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    ~1 & 2 were both not FS and that is what I said in the original thread.
    ~3 was FS and that is what I had guessed originally
    ~4-6 were not FS while I had originally said they were
    ~7 was not FS...this one I said not FS in the original thread but changed to FS in the GTG
    ~8 was not FS while I had originally said it was
    ~9 and 10 we are still waiting for the reveal and the post....I figured both were FS

    .....overall just one full step so far...amazing (not in a good way)
     
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