Another counterfeiter from China on eBay

This seller has many 1892 S Barber half dollars. It seems eBay is fine with counterfeiters breaking U.S law as long as they can make a profit.
27 sold 6 available


https://www.ebay.com/itm/405422534877

 

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Undoubtedly stolen images. $300+ coin for $35. People are so gullible. You'll receive one of their $2 fakes.

 

I don't buy online anymore but when I did, I had certain sellers as my regulars.
It's a mess over there now. Nobody seems to care on Ebay, do they?

 

Located in: almaty, Kazakhstan. Set of 1883 Hawaiian coins for 145$. Sheeeesh

 

Where? They let in the "rift raft" I tell you. NEVER buy from a seller who has Multiple of the same exact coin. Buyer beware.

 

Not a bad idea. I'm in.

 

I guess along with that you'd have to get a hundred separate people to report the item as counterfeit and not have it removed. So you have evidence that ebay does nothing about it. Then you've got a hundred people suing them for not removing the counterfeit, for a grand total of $3500 in aiding and abetting a fraud. I don't think in total that even gets you out of small claims court. Ebay offers to refund everybody their $35 and goes right on facilitating the sale of counterfeits. I have no idea, maybe an attorney thinks it could work and be worth it. You'd have to get a hold of all their coin sales data and go through everything to see how many were reported as counterfeit, not removed, sold, never refunded, and can be proven to be fake. Then get those people to sign up. It could work, but an enormous amount of effort.

 

They have been sued, and settled for $59 million, for selling counterfeit pill presses used to manufacture fake pills (and probably to distribute fentanyl). https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ebay...ces-act-allegations-related-pill-presses-sold. Seems a lot more egregious than fake coins, but similar.

There have been a couple other cases that I could find, one involving Tiffany and the selling of counterfeits of their products. https://www.vondranlegal.com/can-eb...rfeit-replica-goods-being-sold-on-its-website

Seems like the US Mint would have to get involved, as these are their products. Perhaps the Secret Service, since as far as I know none of the classic coins have been demonetized and you're free to spend as many 1909-S VDB cents and 1804 dollars as you want. For US coins, they are essentially facilitating the distribution of counterfeit currency.

 

I purchased this one; as noted the latest scam for the counterfeit sellers from CN is to use stolen images.

Waiting for it to come in and then file a claim; so far each seller allows for the refund with no return...


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Good to know. The new wind up with a free fake which makes a good teaching tool.

 

I'm not willing to even play devil's advocate. I'm convinced that their AI and/or "customer service" responses are just automated feel good CYA things. Their stock price is up 69% over the past year and that is the one and only thing they care about. How many reports of counterfeit coins do we think they get per day? Tons of people on this forum could ID the obvious fakes in seconds. Let's say you could look at 4 per minute. One person could handle 2000 reports a day. Click definitely fake, not fake, or for further review. It would be a boring job but easily accomplished, and a seller could easily appeal and get a more thorough review. They simply do not want to do it, because they make too much money off of hear no evil, see no evil. They have to be fined more than they earn from this garbage before anyone there will pay attention. To my knowledge they've never even had their wrist slapped.

 

Too big to be held accountable. A sign of the times.

 

Keep this case in mind as well.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/two-former-ebay-executives-sentenced-prison-cyberstalking

 

The Op's 1892-S listing was reported and removed.

 

Maybe some hope


USPS temporarily suspends accepting packages from China and Hong Kong

 

Well that was fast
USPS says it will resume accepting inbound packages from China, Hong Kong

 

I wonder what DeJoy is up to now.