1788 Massachusetts one cent - counterfeit?

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  1. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Maybe a dollar or two as a novelty.
     
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  3. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Agreed, a dollar or two.
     
  4. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    1788 CENT WITH A ( R ) on the back on the left side not on the right. Feedback into the 1788 R cent colonial. Ohio.
     
  5. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Here are my two contemporary counterfeit electrotypes...

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  6. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

  7. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    Nope...those dont have a R on the back Left . My 1788 is copper brown with a slight messup..on the arrows on right when made.
     
  8. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    However...i did go to a coin sight for colonial coins ..and one year they dont seem to know what letter was put on the backside of the 1788 cent ?? If anyone finds out anything please let me know. Ohio.
     
  9. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    My 1788 cent in xfine condition.
     
  10. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    It really doesn't matter where the "R" is, left or right, it just indicates that it is a replica with no real value.
     
  11. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    Ok...do you have the training to know that about the 1788. Im just wanting to know where you got the information. I went to colonial coins of 1788 and there a section where they know theres a 1788 coin out there and they dont seem to know what mint mark is on it. ?
     
  12. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Well I have collected colonial coins for over 45 years. I don't know where you got your information, but none of the state coppers have mint marks.
     
  13. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    I just find that weird that the individuals that produced the coins for a certain year...dont seem to know what mint mark would be on a certain coin f, d, c, how about R. Its defiantly on my and its a copper cent 1788 Ryder
     
  14. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    Well from a colonial coin sight. Mayb then it stands for Ryder.?
     
  15. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    There are no mint marks on state coppers. The R on yours indicates that it is a replica, not a real coin. Where are you getting your information from?
     
  16. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    1788 R..Ryder collection. Which was a special set of coins.
     
  17. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    I typed in on google . 1788 colonial and it took me to a colonial coins of 1788. And it talkd about the Ryder coins.
     
  18. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    No, Ryder was not a special set of coins, Ryder was the man who came up with the attribution system for Massachusetts coppers. R stands for replica, no genuine Massachusetts coins have the R.
     
  19. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    Why...would the states make replicas ?
     
  20. Blue121

    Blue121 Member

    Ok...thanku
     
  21. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    The states did not make replicas, they were made in recent years by private companies to be sold cheaply as souvenirs or novelty items.
     
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