Is there a 1925-P (no mint mark) Quarter Eagle Indian gold coin?

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  1. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    Don't shoot from the hip please... :eggface::facepalm:
     
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  3. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    If this coin is genuine then I have a Golden Gate Bridge to sell you guys...look at all the volcanoes on this coin, plus the letters on the word liberty just don't look right...:banghead:
     
  4. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    It's called harshly cleaned/damaged
     
  5. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    It's called harshly filled..:p but still doesn't explain all the volcanoes on the coin.
     
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  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Are we even looking at the same coin? What are the volcanos you speak of? Please elaborate.
     
  7. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Most useless thread ever.
     
  8. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

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  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    try re-reading the post
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    'look at all the volcanoes"


    what are you talking about?
     
  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Are you taking the contrary opinion just to do so?

    Remember, the design elements are INCUSE, so when the surfaces were filed/scraped/otherwise damaged, the devices were unharmed for the most part. Also, there was a ton of movement of metal, so some may have entered the incuse areas and are making the devices look weird.

    And WHAT THE HECK DO YOU MEAN BY "VOLCANOS?!?" You keep saying they are there, but you are not pointing out EXACTLY what you are seeing. When you do, maybe we can explain how the damage makes the coin look weird.
     
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  12. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :rolleyes: I'm getting accustomed to you :confused: posting A DAY LATE and a dollar short. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

    You might follow your own advice...;)
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm not seeing anything of geological interest, just a coin which apparently tried to break up a fight between two bobcats.
     
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  14. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    Volcanos = pimples all over the field.The most noticeable is the "R" and the "A" in the word dollars.
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I'm not questioning your opinion as you are obviously a counterfeit detection expert to be able to authenticate a coin from this series using just a photo.

    Please take the time to be more specific as I am anxious to learn from you.

    1. Can you pick out some specific "pimples?" I see what looks like some raised metal on the "A" of dollar. IMO it is a hit to the surface.

    2. The color/luster of the coin is OK to me. Do you agree? If the coin is counterfeit, it must be a relatively modern one made after the 1980's when the counterfeiters corrected the gold alloy they used.

    Hope you can help me out here.:nailbiting:
     
  16. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    Hits to a coin does not cause "raised pimples" on the surface.
     
  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I guess you are not going to help me out. :( Perhaps I over estimated your knowledge about counterfeits and coins in general. I was taught that a "pimple" is a tiny raised, rounded/or rough defect on a coin's surface caused by damage to a die or bubbles trapped in a mold. Defects on counterfeit dies or rust pits on genuine dies are the major causes for the "Volcanoes" :facepalm: as you call them."

    I'll plead ignorance :bucktooth: again as I don't see :bag: "pimples all over the field" on this coin.
     
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  18. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    I guess so...:shame::eggface: even though I have had bought/sold quite a few gold pieces before TPG came along.
     
  19. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    real nice.

    good attitude.



    I look forward to ignoring your posts.
     
  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :happy::watching: :yawn:
     
  21. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I have no idea what you are talking about, and I am beginning to think you don't either.

    Since you have been incredibly unhelpful in pointing out these volcanos/pimples that are so obvious to you, I am guessing what you are calling pimples. I took a much closer look at the pictures and I think I see what you are mistaking to be pimples.

    If you look closely at the pictures, you will see that the coin is lit from the bottom. On these so-called pimples, if that is what they are, the light is reflecting in such a way that the coin would have to be lit from the top. However, this would be contradictory. So the obvious answer would be that the marks are incuse (aka hits) to be consistent with the lighting pattern.

    The chunk out of the A is caused by a hit that moved metal into the incuse outline of the letter.
     
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