The Giant FS Jefferson Nickel GTG Coin #5: 1943-P

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Guess the Assigned Grade Coin #5

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-64

  3. MS65

  4. MS66

  5. MS67

  6. Other (Please Explain in Comments)

  7. FS (Full Steps)

  8. NOT FS

  9. + Grade

  10. * Designation

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Please guess the grade of the 1943-P Jefferson Nickel shown below. I have attached a poll for you to cast your vote and you may select up to 3 different things: the numerical grade, FS or NOT FS, and + grade or star designation.

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    Please don't forget to vote in the poll, and as always, comments welcome.
     
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  3. kSigSteve

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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    MS65 FS because of the rim area.
     
  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I dropped from 67 to 66+ for the same reason. I am assuming you thought it was 66 with clean rims.
     
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Nah. What is going on with the rims anyways?
     
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Just some minor dings. They look way worse than they actually are. Probably happened while the coin was in a roll.
     
  8. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I would have said 66 until SSal pointed out the rims. So, 65.
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Luster is great but there is a bit of contact that I think prevents the 67.
    66+FS
     
  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    67 5FS ....luster and minimal marks is enough to get it to 67 (and it's nicer than the last one, which was a 66....of course that does not mean it was graded higher but that's my thinking at least)
     
  11. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    MS66 5FS for me.
     
  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Reveal coming tomorrow, get your guesses in. Merry Christmas!
     
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  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    REVEAL: 1943-P Jefferson Nickel NGC MS65

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    Well, only @SensibleSal66 came close to getting this one. I would love to know why NGC didn't give this full steps.
     
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  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I went big and whiffed by two grades....I can see a 66 but 65 and no steps seems like NGC was off.
     
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  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I was a plus.
    What did you think it would grade? @Lehigh96
     
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I thought the coin was an MS67FS but the rims would prevent 67 and they would net grade it to MS66+FS. MS65 is beyond the pale.
     
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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Seems that the introduction of CACG everyone is trying to tighten the standards. I have notice a few coins lately, from even ANACS, they have tightened their standards.
    Quite a few dealers B&M are using them in the D Metro.
     
  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The curious part of that theory, as it relates to Jefferson Nickels, is that CACG is only going to give full steps to coins that have 6 full steps, the same policy that JA employed when he started NGC. Given that policy, CACG presents no threat to either NGC or PCGS in the Jefferson Nickel market.

    I think it is more likely that CACG stole graders from both PCGS and NGC, and their staffing shortages caused a restructuring of their respective grading teams, leading to inexperienced graders handling what used to be handled by more experienced graders.
     
  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thats plausible, at the same time it seems that CACG is making a correction in the market. I don't doubt that he snagged some graders looking for better pay and aligned with him.
    I think that a stricter market gets those loyal to him to let go of their hard earned money. Grades are tightening.
     
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