GtGx2 1887 Morgan 1905 IHC

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  1. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Bonus points shall be granted for correct Vam/Snow attribution
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  3. kSigSteve

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  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

  5. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    64 and 64RD, although the dollar could be clean enough for 65. Can't tell from the picture. Looks like VAM 3A. Can't tell the Snow number on the cent from the picture.
     
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  6. Coinlover67

    Coinlover67 Well-Known Member

  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'm at 65 on the Morgan because of a color bump. The obverse looks like a nice 65 but the reverse is a max 64. I too think it's a 3A, but I just can't see the die gouge through the wing to confirm it.

    The Indian Cent is a 64RB. I don't know Snow's to attribute it. I don't have the reference material.
     
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    rlm's cents Numismatist

  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    No use VAMming after you've weighed in. :)

    The die cracks are sufficient, once the date and neck clash (from the wing) locations are noted, for VAM-3A even considering the color interferes with seeing the obverse clashed letters. I'm OK with a reverse-limited 64+; really nice color.

    I'm thinking (undeserved) 63RB on the IHC. The couple of marks on the obverse are about it, but they're prominent and if it got looked at conservatively it might be enough to keep it from 64. RB because I see the White Balance off in the direction of excessive yellow/red, and my mental correction for that makes the surfaces of a darker hue than we see here.
     
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  10. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I'm with JB.
     
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  11. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    How is the luster on the dollar in hand?

    So far, I am at:

    MS65 (could be knocked down if luster is heavily muted to MS64)
    MS64 RD
     
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  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I'm almost tempted to not answer after my other threads, but here goes:

    MS-63
    MS-63 RB (maybe higher. I have almost zero grading experience with UNC Indian Cents)
     
  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    64 on the Morgan. Nice coin. I'm sure we know the VAM.
    63RB on the cent. S-28
     
  14. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    PCGS is all over the place on the color designation, which made me think of another thought relevant to this thread regarding the color designation:

    PCGS red designation requires: >=95% full red purportedly
    NGC red designation: is around >=85% full red purportedly (I'm basing that on comments made online by one of the NGC employees/graders in the past)
     
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  15. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Its obviously a bit muted on the obverse, but it really shines through under the blue/yellow portions of the hair/cap...The reverse luster is average>above average for an 1887 philly
     
  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 65 (the obverse carries the Morgan)

    MS 65 RB (a few dings in focal spots on the face offset by relatively mark free fields)
     
  17. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    If it isn't in a MS65 holder, it should be in a MS64+ holder.
     
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  18. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I too in the 64+/65 crowd ,and maybe the 1887/7
     
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  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I want to say MS65 on both but I think they'll keep the '05 out of gem for those dings on the mug.
     
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  20. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

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    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

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