Is this what they mean by doubling?

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  1. Lil ol' me

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks doubled to me but from a worn die. Also looks zinc but with no obverse photo I can’t say for sure.
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure that everything that you see is plating disturbance, or split plate doubling. What's the date, and do you have an obv photo.
     
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  5. Lil ol' me

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    It is 1994 no mint mark and in ms condition is what my app says. What's your thoughts...what should I do with it?
     
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  6. Lil ol' me

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    1994 and I'm trying to get a decent photo...no pun intended.
     
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  8. Lil ol' me

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    How's my learning to post photos coming along?
     
  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Not bad. Just have to learn to crop in circles (without any border). Just the coin. Try using PhotoScape X. It's totally free. :)
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This is the preferred lighting for photos, I use a black background so that I don't have to crop much. Just the whole coin in the photo.:D
     
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  11. KBBPLL

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    My thoughts are that you should stop saying "no mint mark." Like, right now. Never say "no mint mark" ever again. Philadelphia cents have never, ever had a mint mark except for 2017 to commemorate the 225th anniversary of the Philadelphia mint. Somewhere, somebody started this nonsense by posting something about one of the "no S" proof coins being valuable as having "no mint mark", and now this "no mint mark" garbage is everywhere. Saying it is utterly meaningless. Other than the war nickels, no coin from Philly ever had a mint mark until the 1979 SBA dollars. In 1980, P started appearing on the other denominations except the cent. From that point forward, you could say you have a 2012-P quarter, to distinguish it from a 2012-D quarter. Prior to 1980, you just say that you have a 1979 quarter. Look at this price guide here https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/washington-quarter/112/most-active/ms?pn=2. Note that none of the listings prior to 1980 say "no mint mark."

    I hope I don't sound too snobby or irritated, but this is one of my pet peeves, because this whole "no mint mark" garbage originates from garbage information on social media, and now everybody says it like it imparts some special value to a coin. Even ebay now apparently auto-fills listing titles with "no mint mark" and it drives me nuts. It's stupid.

    Let me know if you want me to rant about anything else.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You did great! Told you it looked zinc.
     
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  13. Lil ol' me

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    Instead of a rant could you please tell me what I'm posda say?
     
  14. Lil ol' me

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    Isn't it supposed to be zinc alloy?
     
  15. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I thought it was clear. Just say it's a 1994 cent. Everybody knows that means it's Philadelphia mint. If it's minted in Denver or SF, say 1994-D or 1994-S. Saying "no mint mark" brands a person as someone who gets their numismatic knowledge from TikTok and YouTube get-rich-quick videos. Do whatever you want obviously. It just irks me to see this dumb stuff continue to spread, that's all.
     
  16. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    Yep, looks like a coin from a worn tired die and, from the Obv, it's not MS. It's worth 1 cent
     
  17. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    A good rant that needs to be heard.
    eBay listings are unendated with face value coins claiming to be worth a premium because of no mint mark.
     
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  18. KBBPLL

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    There are currently over 51,000 listings on ebay with "no mint mark" in them. It's insidious.

    Now I'll go outside and shake my fist at the sky.
     
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  19. Lil ol' me

    Lil ol' me Member

    Sorry to bust the bubble but I am self taught to collect. Not just YouTube or Facebook but here as well, has taught me everything I know about coin collecting. Which granted is not much.
     
  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Well except for cents all coins carry a P mint mark since 1980, and 1979 on the dollar coins. Saying no mint mark is not a big deal. People think the coins from 1965 1966 and 1967 all came from Philly because they took the mint marks off coins (temporarily) to halt "hoarding". The D and the S coins produced less than Philly and many of the older coins, the D and S mints are more desirable. Of course all 3 mints produced coins in 65,66 and 67 but there's no way to tell which one came from which mint. I don't mind if someone says no mint mark. It's just a way of discerning that it's a Philly coin. It's also humorous when they say no MM and its a 65,66 or 67 coin.
     
  21. KBBPLL

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    Search this forum or any other for titles containing "no mint." The vast majority are from people who think they found something valuable that isn't. A handful are coins that should have a P for Philly but don't, and in those cases it's perfectly valid to question what happened to the mint mark (grease filled die and a 1944 Henning nickel are two that I saw). I'm truly trying to be helpful here. You seem to be pushing back like I'm wrong or something. No experienced coin collector calls a 1974 quarter a "1974 no mint mark" quarter. No reference book you will find, nor any reputable auction house, defines any coin as "no mint mark" when it's just a regular Philly issue. It's certainly tough to learn all the jargon associated with this hobby and use it correctly. My beef with this one is that it originated with scammers and is perpetuated by scammers trying to dupe people into buying their "no mint mark" coins. If you dropped that phrase from your lexicon, you would be viewed as a more knowledgeable collector.
     
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