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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pickin and Grinin, Dec 17, 2024.

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FS or no?

  1. I say no just on principle

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    50.0%
  2. Yes, there are full struck steps

    3 vote(s)
    37.5%
  3. No, I would chalk that up to planchet roughness

    1 vote(s)
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  4. It's an optical illusion.

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Would you call this a FS Jefferson?
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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I would say the coin is full steps since the mark is shallow enough that it doesn't interrupt the continuity of the lines, but the coin is horrid. A modern Jefferson basically needs to be a lock for MS67 6FS to be worthy of submission.
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This wasn't about getting it graded, the gouge that your seeing is very deep, it almost goes thru the relief to the height of the surfaces. I normally just toss those out. But seeing the continued steps made me take some photos and get some opinions.
     
  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I had the impression that full steps were not considered as special or a valid attribute after 1983.
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I personally can not give this coin a full steps grade.
     
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    With the exception of 1987, full steps are still hard to find on most date/mm from the 80's. Once you get to the 90's, then any coin without full steps is automatically relegated to the dreck pile.
     
  8. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I was also under the impression that modern Jeffersons are expected to be FS and almost always are. But I see they still hand out that designation.
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    These really aren't. Most that you find are not weak at all.

    I thought that someone would notice that the steps run thru a pretty good size crevice in the steps. The only way that the steps can still show full in this instance is a loss of a small lamination. A bag mark or a ding/ damage would wipe out any step details.
     
  10. Long Beard

    Long Beard Well-Known Member

    A definite no on the top image, questionable and leaning no on the others.
     
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  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    All the images are the same coin.
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Yes, the photos are all of one coin. The point to the thread is that in the instance of full steps. This coin IMO should not get it because the steps are interrupted. But, because of the planchet flaw, loss of lamination., and the steps are fully visible in that void it still technically should get a FS designation. Just one of many odd type coins that I like to collect.
     
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