Charles VII Dauphine Dentille

This is the latest addition to my historical figures collection. It is a coin of Charles VII. What attracted me to this coin was the Dolphin with large pointy teeth.

The diameter is 20.24 mm, the weight is 1.20 gr.

Please post your French or other mediaeval coins.

 

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Is it a coin or a jeton?

Chris

 

It is a denier.

 

someone else posted on of these "scary dolphin" coin recently...if i remember it was on the coat of arms for a region of france?

 

@chrsmat71

From wikipedia:
The Dauphin of France (pronunciation: /ˈdɔːfᵻn/, also UK /ˈdoʊfæn/ and US /doʊˈfæn/; French: Dauphin de France, IPA: [dofɛ̃])—strictly The Dauphin of Viennois (Dauphin de Viennois)—was the title given to the heir apparent to the throne of France from 1350 to 1791 and 1824 to 1830.


Here is the coat of arms for the Dauphin.

 

That is a lovely coin!

 

I'm not familiar with many of the types of coins from older periods. Thanks!

Chris

 

Interesting coin - a dolphin with sharp teeth.
An allusion to Charles VII's temperament maybe?

 

Lovely coin Orfew! That is certainly an interesting design. My medieval French coins are a little more plain... here's one I don't think I've posted before:


French Feudal, Champagne
Henry I or II, r. 1152-81 or 1181-97
Troyes Mint, AR Denier, 20.52 mm x 0.9 grams
Obv.: +HENRI COMES, Cross Pattee with annulet in 2nd and 4th quadrants
Rev.: +TRECAS CIVITAS, cross monogram (I suspect the monogram is suppose to be for Theobald who was the previous count of Champagne, but I have not been able to varify this)

 

You can still find the dolphin on the CoA's from that area (Dauphiné) these days. The départements Drôme, Hautes-Alpes, Isère all use it. Without any teeth though.

Christian

 

Sure it was !


Francois I° (1515-1547) - Teston du Dauphiné deuxieme type Atelier de Romans (point secret sous la deuxième lettre, R couronnée au revers)
+ (triangle) FRANCISCVS.DEI.GRA.FRANCOR.REX (triangle) buste cuirassé et couronné a droite
+ (triangle) SIT.NOMEN.DNI.BENEDICTVM.R.(Mm) (triangle). Ecu ecartelé de France et Dauphiné. Grande F sur l'ecartelé (après le 8 octobre 1528, date à laquelle une lettre F brochant sur l'écartelé fut ajoutée sur les testons (source CGB VSO 09/1067))
9,25 gr - 26/29 mm
Ref : Ciani # 1141v

That dolphin is terrific @Orfew !

And I can't restrain myself from posting (again) my Charles VII ecu even though it's dolphinless :


Charles VII (1422-1461) - Ecu d'or 3° emission de 1424, atelier de Toulouse (annelet sous la cinquieme lettre)
Croisette sur etoile initiale, KAROLVS : DEI : GRATIA : FRANCORVM : REX, Ecu de France couronné
+ XPC : VINCIT : XPC : REGNAT : XPC : IMPERAT, croix arquée, evidée et fleudelisée, cantonnée de quatre coronelles
3.76 gr, 28 mm
Ref : Ciani # 617

Q

 

@Cucumbor
Wow, what wonderful coins. The nose on that Francois I is magnificent. The Ecu is exceptionally well struck with lots of great detail.

 

Great coin, now I want to get one later.

Assume you got it after I mentioned his ties to Joan of Arc in your other thread?

My Charles VII


Charles VII le Victorieux, (1422 - 1461 A.D.)
AR Blanc à la Couronne
O: +KAROLVS FRANCORVM REX (castle), royal coat-of-arms within in trilobe; three crowns around; O pointed; annulet under sixth letter.
R: +SIT:NOME : DNI:BENEDIC:TV (castle), cross pattée with crowns and lis in opposing quarters; all within quadrilobe; O pointed; annulet under sixth letter.
25mm
2.53g
Duplessy 519A; Ciani

 

@Mat

Yes indeed. That post was the inspiration behind this purchase. Thanks!

BTW Numiscorner has one available.

 

I have just a very few french mediaeval coins, an Ecu d'or of Charles VII, and a Demi Ecu of Charles IX.

I also have a penny for Richard the Lionhearted ( Coeur de Lion). Richard was King of England but spent much of his time in France and also carried the titles of Duke of Normandy, Duke of Aquitaine and Duke of Gascony.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/richard-i-the-lionhearted-coeur-de-lion.106564/#post-881766

France. ½ Ecu d'or, 1566-B (Rouen). Fr-379; Ciani-1349. 1.6 grams. Charles IX, 1560-1574. Crowned arms. Reverse: Floriated cross. Uneven flan. Fine.

 

that's it Q! i couldn't remember who it was off the top of my head that cool scary dolphin coin recently!

 

Beautiful 1/2 Ecu @Eduard

Richard I and his brother John are also on my list of historical figures to acquire.

 

That Charles IX demi ecu is very nice @Eduard !

Q

 

Your denier is most likely minted under Henri II at Troyes, most likely before his departure for the Holy Land, around 1185-1189. According to Poey d'Avant what differentiates between the deniers of Henri I and Henri II is the shape of the monogram: on Henri I deniers the monogram is that of Thibaut (supposed to read TEBO), while on those of Henri II the O of TEBO in the monogram is replaced by either an upside-down crescent (like it seems to be the case w/ your coin) or an asterix or two.
In Poey d'Avant's catalog it's recorded at #5951, p. 247. It's also recorded by Boudeau in his Catalogue Général Illustré de Monnaies Provinciales at #1746