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Let me get what appears too me, out of the way. 1878-P either an 8 TF or possibly a 7/8 Str. TF focus on the tail feathers to the right, and give me your opinions. Obvious wear on the chest and neck feathers, and a most unusual tint on the highest points of the design on the obverse. With what appears to be a rim ding or bump, but the denticles are somewhat foreseeable. Somebody told me it's a folded rim that can happen in planchet process early on . Up close the lowest part of Obverse design is incredible. And the reverse is not straight up and down with the obverse, it's a degree off. I wouldn't even try to guess the grade, although heavily circulated. Is that a second eye, look up where the eyebrow rounds off..

 

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It would help if you would take it out of the 2x2 and take some new photos, especially ones with a close-up of the tail feathers and her eye. To me, it looks like the rim damage might relegate it to a Details grade.

Chris

 

Hello Chris, I'm more looking for a CONECA quote on possibles. Grades don't always phase me so much as the history. But you're welcome too pitch. Here's a few pics;

 

8TF, the images aren't definitive but VAM-2, I think.

http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P+VAM-2

 

Turns out its a VAM-9 Dave. Focus the spread at the bottom of the wings.
http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P+VAM-9

 

It may be a VAM-2 but it's certainly not a VAM-9.

 

Defenatly not vam 9. It does appear to be the A1b reverse so v2 is a possibility

 

Cast

 

What makes you think it's cast. The photos are so grainy there is no way to get a good feel for the surfaces.

 

The rim was the 1st clue, but if not, the cap, cotton bolls, that whole area is a can of worms.

 

I don't see any of that, because the images aren't good enough to trust what I see of the surfaces.

 

That's what I was trying to say. I would guess that it's the image quality that's giving that appearance...but there is no way to tell.

 

Heck, I don't trust half of my own images regarding surface preservation.

 

LOL, I know the feeling. It's not easy.

 

Wear patterns would tell you that the cotton bolls show wear before the cap ball. Before the cap wears down, the boll hull nearly disappears on the bottom boll. What appears to be wear, actually appears to me to be an attempt to hide a bad cast job.

 

So tell me, how did you come to get your casters license?

 

Let me show you my perspective. I'm calling it a Vam-9 based on these indications.

 

Um, VAM-9 is A1h reverse.

 

Then what's an A1C reverse? Sourced how

 

Here's the list of A1c reverse VAM's http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P+VAM-3