2014 Everglades Quarter RPM?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Jim Johns, Nov 30, 2016.

  1. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    Anybody familiar with an RPM like this? Lots of file lines and polishing brought my eye to the mint mark. Haven't found any info on such an error yet. IMG_20161130_191340.jpg IMG_20161130_191340.jpg
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    It has been more than a quarter century since the mintmark was hand-punched into the die.

    Chris
     
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  4. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    I know that's why it's odd. Maybe Philly Mint had a Denver hub? Idk it's an honest question considering it looks like a perfect RPM. What else would it be?
     
  5. BooksB4Coins

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    Perhaps die deterioration/fatigue, but as Chris said, it absolutely isn't an RPM.
     
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  6. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Find this to be very interesting I'd like to see clear pics of the whole coin. Maybe more angles of mm area
     
  7. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    I'll try getting a better one. If it's die deterioration it's awfully convenient it's only on the MM and no other letters..
     
  8. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    This is the best I'm able to capture on photo unfortunately. The upper left serif on the P shows the clear split under it where the D would be. Yes..it's polished away for the most part but it's fairly easy to see the full D mint mark that was there under the serif and through the loop of the P. Screenshot_2016-11-30-20-29-11.png Screenshot_2016-11-30-20-29-11.png
     
  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    This is common die deterioration from Philadelphia and it actually shows all around in the field. Notice the waviness/striations all around this area.
     
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  10. Jim Johns

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    I see what you're saying and that's why it caught my eye. The D mint mark and their pitiful attempt at polishing it away is pretty clear in the pic I just posted though. I wasn't looking for an RPM because I agree that it seems absurd but there was a D there..
     
  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Actually Jim, I would very much doubt that Philly polishes their dies all that much. ( maybe early on ) This would normally result in some minor or major details fading. ( such as the 1969 Lincoln Cent "Floating Roof". ) Die fatigue is what causes the striations, simple overuse of a die, rather than take it out of production before something worse happens, and it usually does. You will find on most Philly quarters, an enormous amount of die chips and cracks on these coins because of a lack of quality control. Very much the other way with Denver & San Francisco which almost always have better strikes and very few errors. The exception of which is usually minor cracks at the base of the bust. I also tend to believe that they do not even take great care of their machinery as evidenced by all of the grease they use, causing grease filled errors with missing details.
     
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  12. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    I'v seen what I need to see I must agree with the others die deterioration. This has been a common occurrence from Philly Lately. look up 2016 p (double)die dime you will find many examples that look similar to your coin.
    Many have been posted here on CT.
     
  13. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    I guess polishing was the wrong word to use. It looks to be filed off and filled with a P mint mark is all. I know theoretically it's impossible but Im still seeing a D under there whatever the case. Its not a nice high grade coin by any means. It just stood out so I had a closer look. I will certainly check out the dimes that were mentioned as well. Thanks for the input guys.
     
  14. cpm9ball

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    Believe me, you're not the first person to think he/she saw something that just happened to be a coincidence. Years ago, there was another collector who swore that he saw the Shroud of Turin on a Lincoln cent.

    The striations (die deterioration) on the left side of the "P" mintmark and pointing toward the rim have a way of altering one's perception.

    Chris
     
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  15. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    Ya I found myself working too hard to find the D under there to believe it myself. It looks like it at some angles still but oh well it's already in my son's piggy bank. I appreciate the help everyone thanks again.
     
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