Indian Head $5 half eagle

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  1. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    I was researching the 1911-D 1908 $5 gold Indian.jpg and came across this interesting trivia...albeit unique trivia. The pic is, of course, a 1908 plain.

    Distinctions
    The $5 denomination has the distinction of being the only denomination for which coins were minted at eight US mints. Prior to 1838 all half eagles were minted in Philadelphia because there were no other operating mints. In 1838, the Charlotte Mint and the Dahlonega Mint produced half eagles of the Coronet type in their first years of operation, and would continue to mint half eagles until 1861, their last year of operation. The New Orleans Mint minted half eagles from 1840 to 1861. The San Francisco Mint first produced half eagles in 1854, its first year of operation, as did Carson City in 1870, and Denver in 1906.
    Although circulating half eagle production was discontinued in 1929, half eagle commemorative and $5 denominated (1/10 ounce) bullion coins were minted at West Point starting in the late twentieth century.
     
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    So this made me run off to see if that's all the US mints. Wikipedia says no -- they count the US branch mint that operated in Manila from 1920-1922 and 1925-1941. I'm not sure what I think of counting that one, though.

    I feel good that I could name all eight mints without looking at the list, but given the price of Charlotte and Dahlonega specimens, I doubt I'll ever complete a mint set... but it's an intriguing idea.
     
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  4. Golden age

    Golden age Go for the gold

    A mint mark set of these would be expensive indeed, no matter the grade.
     
  5. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    I was thinking the same...but in gold is WAY OUT of my league!
     
  6. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Yep!
     
  7. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Jeff, and @Golden age and @Coinlover67
    another thing that makes the $5 Gold Indian unique...
    The half eagle and quarter eagle are identical in design, and are unique in American coinage in having incuse (engraved, as opposed to bas-relief) designs.
     
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  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    To which I would add: Thank Goodness. Not a fan of the incuse design, especially when it comes to trying to grade them.

    Now, your turn: which currently-minted US coin denominations have part of their design struck incuse? (I'm not counting State/National Park/Famous Dogs quarters, because who can keep track of what's incuse or relief on 100+ designs...)
     
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  9. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    One significant correction on the New Orleans minted half eagles, they were minted after 1861 very occasionally and scarcely up until 1909 - the latter is the key of the $5 series. 1909 has the distinction of being the last year there were four operating US mints and it is possible, especially with dimes to do a date set. With the half eagle the price goes up exponentially.
     
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  10. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...part of the design?
     
  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yeah, not sure how to make it into a good trivia question. I'm thinking incuse lettering, which I guess really means I shouldn't exclude the ATB quarters...
     
  12. Golden age

    Golden age Go for the gold

    The "golden dollars" ? (W/O. checking )
     
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  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's one -- the edge lettering is incuse. There's another that I found surprising.
     
  14. Golden age

    Golden age Go for the gold

    30th ann. S.A.E. edge lettering
     
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  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    The one I have in mind is a circulating issue.
     
  16. Golden age

    Golden age Go for the gold

    Ok, ... sacs, pres, Kennedy, wash, Jeff, rose, Linc. How about those ? (LOL )
     
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  17. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The shield design on the cent has some incuse lettering.
     
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  18. Golden age

    Golden age Go for the gold

    Wow,... so, I guess I got it. Cool.
     
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  19. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I'm actually sort of working on a mint mark set of $5 Libertys. I always thought it would be cool. It's not a "top priority" set of mine, but just two coins left. Hopefully, I'll be able to pull the trigger when the opportunity strikes.

    Link to set
     
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  20. Golden age

    Golden age Go for the gold

    Good luck, I hope you are able to complete the set, will be awesome.
     
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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's the one I had in mind. Until I started digging around during this thread, I didn't realize that E PLURIBUS UNUM was incuse. I had to stare with a flashlight and a magnifying glass to convince myself.
     
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