Macedonian King Coins

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by The big O, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. The big O

    The big O New Member

    i need your help to for some ancient coins that i found from my grandfathers family and would like to learn the price of this coins because i want to sell them in the future!

    here are some photos of them -->

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    Coin (2)

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    Coin (3)

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    looking forward for your help...
     
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  3. I_v_a_n

    I_v_a_n Well-Known Member

    They are beautiful, but all modern copyes.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    At a glance, they all appear to be modern reproductions.
     
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  5. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    I would wait for other people more knowledgeable then me to weigh in, but I don't like the fabric of any of those coins and suspect they are contemporary struck counterfeits.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

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  8. The big O

    The big O New Member

    So they are copies for sure. that is so bad... Thank you for your help
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I'm interested to know how long your grandfather has had them.
     
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  10. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    they sure look too shiny. :(
     
  11. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Welcome to the forum. I should give you the heads-up that it is against the CT rules to offer coins for sale in this ancient forum. There is a buy & sell forum at CT for actually listing items for sale.

    I agree with everyone that the three coins appear to be modern reproductions. See if they are attracted to a magnet (such as the magnet on an electric can opener). If the coin is attracted to the magnet, then it is made of some base metal. If there is no attraction then they may be made of a silver alloy.
    It would be interesting to know where your family got the coins & it would also be nice to see any written tags/documentation that accompanied the coins.

    Regardless of the documentation & metal alloy, they appear fake to me.
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    see ya later
     
  13. The big O

    The big O New Member

    It is difficult to believe that they are fake for the following reasons.
    Actually that coins was in the safe of my wife's grandfather. The grandfather was jeweler and keep that coins for up of 60+ years (maybe and more) but now is dead and one more information is that coins take them from him grandfather. That coins was together with many expencieve jewelery. About the magnet no its not attracted to the magnet . i will keep looking to find more informations .

    And the last information it's our families leave all in macedonia for +100 years

    Thanks everyone about your informations.
    About the rules realy sorry about it
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2016
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  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Like everyone else, I hope they are authentic. It's nearly impossible to be even reasonably certain about the genuine status of a coin by photos alone. The weight and size are important and actual hands on examination is always recommended. They may be reproductions that have considerable value like my New style Attic Tet from the British Museum circa 1860 or they be something else entirely. Perhaps local mementos from a trip to Greece??? From the photos the style and fabric look highly suspicious. Most of us follow the advice.... "If there is any doubt, there's no doubt". Of course, sending them off to a 'professional authenticator' like Sears is another option

    Obviously, it may be more convenient to bring them to a local ancient coin shop/dealer and ask them for their opinion. Good luck!!!:)
     
  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I understand your disappointment but none of this history makes it more likely that the coins are authentic. :(
     
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  16. ab initio

    ab initio Well-Known Member

    The Alexander and the Philip could have been found in Macedonia but the Velia is highly unlikely (almost impossible) to have been found there (and especially in such excellent condition). It is worth checking Christodoulos, Becker and Caprara for the dies, assuming they are not electrotypes (which appears to be the case due to their non magnetic properties). I am also assuming that their weights are correct; if not, this alone would prove that they are forgeries.
     
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  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    The reason I asked when the coins were acquired is this: IMO, they are NOT of "Modern" manufacture. I'll take the OP's word that they have been in the family for sixty years. Unfortunately, good quality counterfeits were around back then.

    I am with the group on these, 98% sure they are counterfeits.

    @The big O I think we can settle this for you with photos of the edges and the weights (which are probably perfect :D).
     
  18. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Post the weights in grams and the diameter in mm.

    The second one is especially beautiful and rare in that condition.

    As I am sure we all do here, I hope they turn out to be real!

    I would ask a major ancient dealer, David Sear, the British museum, etc.

    John
     
  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    David Sear charges $50 per coin for wait-in-line service (I think it's $75 for priority service?) ...... so I wouldn't bother spending $150-$225 just to find out what everybody else is already telling you (pretty sure they're fake)

    => but hey, if they turn-out to be real, then it'll be money well spent (are you gonna bet heavily that Grandfather bought the real deal?)
     
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  20. Amentia

    Amentia New Member

    They are Greek jewellery replicas and MARKED with (M) as replica.
    Marked the M red on pictures.
    I own 2 replicas with the same M, too.
    (Bought as replica in Greek!)
     

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  21. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is a match to the Velia from the Forvm fake reports:-


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