Is this a mint error, Front Clad missing? Bicentennial Quater

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by DUSITN HADDOCK, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. Found this in change back, Have posted on another forum , they seem to think that it could be painted or left the mint normal,not sure my self, It doesn't seem painted to me , but Im still new and it would seem like the CUDs at the bottom would be smother if painted?
    what do you guys think?
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    @DUSITN HADDOCK

    Two things:

    1) I don't think that is a cud at 6 o'clock. It looks like PMD, but could you show me a photo of the same position on the reverse? I'd like to see if there is any damage in the 12 o'clock position.

    2) I can't tell if it is painted or not, but it definitely does not look like it is missing the clad layer. The core would be copper, so why are there silvery scratches on the obverse?

    Chris
     
  4. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    the scratch that reveals silver colored metal makes me think that it IS painted.

    If the copper layer was half of the coin (as seen from the edge), then the scratch would have revealed more copper.

    Just my 2¢
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I'm looking at it really good and I don't think they are scratches. Looks like clad strips that are left over. Somehow the clad was removed.. look at the 7 in 1976. It has a tiny bit of clad also.
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I said "scratch" but it could also be an abrasion of some sort. Note that they align in an arc which is about the same as the arc of the damage from 7 o'clock to 10 o'clock along the rim. Note: I'm not sure about the silvery marks in the right hand field. I'd like to see a better close-up of that area.

    Chris
     
  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It actually looks like the obverse was painted.
     
  8. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    Drop it in some acetone. If it is painted the paint will come off. Whatever happened to the coin is post mint damage.
     
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  9. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    One other thing. That isn't the zipper part of your pants is it? In the last pic.
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    :eek:
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    In your title.. How is it that you spelled the word Bicentennial correctly but can't spell Quarter? :wacky:
     
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  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    IMO
    Looks like a rusted quarter that was recovered from the ground with a metal detector, and was struck with a trowel in recovery scratching the obverse.
     
  13. YES, but not of the ones i was wearing lol.

    Attention I owe...

    I'm gonna try this
     
  14. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    What does it weigh? If it's got a missing clad layer it should be 4.8g.
     
  15. weighed in at 5.39 grams
     
  16. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Not a missing clad layer then. Too heavy.

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  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Thanks for posting the photo of the reverse. Unfortunately, I'm unable to draw any conclusions from it.

    Chris
     
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  19. I was thinking paint now too but acetone didn't remove anything other than grime?
     
  20. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    A clad quarter is supposed to be 5.67g. A clad quarter without cladding on one face is 4.80g, meaning the clad layer by itself is 0.87g. For this to weigh 5.39g it would need to have about 67.8% of the clad layer present on the obverse. Even if those couple thin strips were remnants of a separated clad layer, there is nowhere near 67.8% of it present on the coin. So it's slightly underweight (perhaps some missing material on the obverse from the damage present), but looks like PMD.
     
  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    did the acetone bath take any color off?
     
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