fishy akbar the great one rupee

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  1. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    I am going to be buying these mughal coins from the time of akbar. Something about this coin doesnt seem right. the circles on the corners, the glossyness of the tarnish. It seems more like one of those tokens made of this coin in the 1914. but the writing doesnt match. Any idea what this might be? akb.jpg akb2.jpg
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Welcome @Muhammad Niazi. However, I can't help with thee as I do not collect them and have no knowledge of them.
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Do normal Akbar coins have that same glossyness?
     
  5. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    never seen any with it. But never ever seen any with the circles in the corners. This looks to me like a token from the 1900s for religious temples.
     
  6. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    It's a trap!

    No idea if it's authentic or not, but welcome to CT!
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    welcome @Muhammad Niazi

    i'm going to be of no use to you, but we have a few members who will know what this is (or isn't).
     
  8. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    This is certainly not a genuine Akbar Rupee. It indeed looks like one of many 19-20th century imitation tokens in this style.
     
  9. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the lovely greetings guys!
    and yes, I agree on the token thing
     
  10. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    The real script on the authentic coins is more flowing and less jumbled than that piece.
     
  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Welcome! I am unfamiliar with the type but I don't like the glossy appearance.
     
  12. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Welcome to coin talk!

    You will find most people here are interested in learning more about all ancient and medieval coins even if they don't currently collect that series.

    Please show us some of your other coins and tell us about them.

    John
     
  13. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    well I dont have many Mughal coins, but I can show one which I replaced this coin with.

    These ones are authentic silver coins from the rule of Abu'l-Fath Jalal ud-din Muhammad Akbar, who was the third and the greatest mughal emperor.

    His coins were the most unique coins of all ages. With coins in the shape of squares and even rhombus diamonds highlighting numismatic calligraphy at its best.

    This particular coin is a silver one rupee from the urdu zafar quarin mint which means "camp associated with victory", 1585-1606.

    The obverse side with the hole has the Islamic 'Kalima" written on it, which translates to:
    "There is no God Besides Allah, Hazrat Muhammad ( SAW) is messenger of Allah."
    The Reverse side has:
    Akbars name on it.

    akb.jpg akb2.jpg
     
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  14. JeffsRealm

    JeffsRealm Active Member

    Welcome @Muhammad Niazi that is a fantastic coin, I have never seen one like it. Thanks for the translation. I certainly hope you post more of your collection in here. We really don't get a lot of these and I would love to see more.
     
  15. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Welcome to CT.
     
  16. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Welcome Muhammad Niazi, I am a collector of Islamic coinage, but like most Americans I am basically illiterate in Arabic. I have been using Richard Plants book and am making some progress. I am looking forward to someone that can help.

    I have been in love with the beauty and flow of the script as an art form. I have made strides in how to read letters but, as I'm said am no way prolific. From time to time I could use some help.
     
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  17. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Here is one of my favorites.
     
  18. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Sorry, here is the coin.
     

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  19. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    Beautiful Ilahi Dam. You can see the ilahi year written on the reverse ٣١ "31"
    Akbar had proposed a new religion called "din-i-Ilahi" in which he combined the best elements of islam, hinduism and a few other religions.
    He made a new calender for this religion aswell and renamed the 12 months. Your coin is from the 7th month of مہر "Mihr" which you can see written on the bottom of the obverse.
    And I am pretty sure that this is allahabad mint. as there is allahabad written on the obverse as الھاباس "allhabas" which is allahabad. The "س" has gone behind the word to accomodate for space.
     
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  20. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    I dont know arabic myself, but since I know Urdu, I know how to read and pronounce arabic. And some words of arabic are the same in Urdu so its easier.
     
  21. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    The end of my collection actually lies at the beginning of the Mughal period. But that's just because i had to set a limit somewhere. There's much beauty in Mughal coinage, though it does take some study.
    Here a bit earlier coin which i like for its combination of elegance and some roughness.
    Ghorid Ruler Mu'izz al-din Muhammad bin Sam, AR Dirham, Album-1771/G&G D4.
    Album1771Web.jpg
     
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