Are any of these "double die"?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by M Moro, Oct 9, 2024.

  1. M Moro

    M Moro New Member

    Hello,

    I have been collecting coins with my son recently and run into about 20 questions an hour. I am trying to learn as quickly as I can. Us dad's know you never want to tell your child "I don't know". The question that keeps coming up is about the 1776-1976 drummer boy quarter. We have about 10 of them now 4 with Denver mint marks and the rest without. I read somewhere the valuable "double die" is the Denver one. Here are some pics and I believe they are all repunched mint marks, but that's not double die, to my understanding. Please check out the pics any info would be awesome! Thank you! 20241009_125816.jpg 20241009_125816.jpg 20241009_125838.jpg 20241009_125934.jpg 20241009_130051.jpg 20241009_130125.jpg 20241009_130142.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hello. You have a lot to learn.

    First of all, there's no such thing as a double die. That's the incorrect way to say it. The correct Numismatic terminology is actually Doubled Die. Remember that.

    Second, that's not a "Drummer Boy".. it's called a Colonial Drummer. It's a man not a boy.

    And lastly, many coins have die deterioration doubling and machine doubling. Both are considered worthless doubling. They are not related to true Doubled die varieties.

    Go to this website and read all about true Doubled die varieties
    https://doubleddie.com/144801.html
     
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  4. Abramthegreat

    Abramthegreat Well-Known Member

    Hey there, welcome to CoinTalk! If you want to learn more about die varieties or errors, I would recommend Error-ref. For referencing varieties on certain dates or mints, I recommend VarietyVista or Wexler's Die Varieties
     
  5. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    The great majority of Drummers were in fact under 16 and to young to fight.

    There was a minority of men older than 50 that could not fight and volunteered to be a Drummer or Fife Player or Bugle Player.

    The method of communication in the Colonial Army was just that....Drum and Fife and Bugle.

    The Artist intended the image to be representative without identification of youth, to make certain to not influence youngsters to interpret Glory of children in War, and to not offend parents.

    This was a discussion of import during the design process.

    Note that Drummer Boys were as young as 10.

    Now, questions for the membership:

    Did any Drummer Boys receive commendation for Bravery?

    Are any Drummer Boys buried in a National Military Cemetery?

    What was the age of the youngest Drummer Boy to die in battle?

    Did General Washington have any Drummer Boys, and if so, how old were they?

    Answers are not really all that important, but interesting subject and an ongoing musical communication method still practiced in the Military.

    Not all good things go by the wayside.

    This has been a Charley Talk.
     
  6. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    With those photos, you can't see any anomalies.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a double die. The correct term is doubled die. They are known as Bicentennial Quarters. Notice the dual date. Of the clad circulation variety, Philadelphia minted just over 800 thousand and Denver minted over 860 thousand. Welcome to CT.
     
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  8. M Moro

    M Moro New Member

    Thank you all very much, for your help and directions on where to go to help expand my knowledge.
     
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  9. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    CN, you are missing some zeros.
    Philadelphia: 809.7 million.
    Denver: 860.1 million.
    …Spark
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Oh my word! You are correct. I think I need help. Lol
     
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  11. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Fun and provocative questions I had answers for when looking up Civil War drummer boys. I recall learning that some were quite young, as young as I was back in the day. And I recall that one Civil War drummer boy, perhaps from Ohio, was one of the last Civil War veterans.

    My research back then inevitably uncovered Revolutionary War drummer boys in the process. Unfortunately, time separates me from most of it. Perhaps this creates a new opportunity for me.
     
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  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    You want to help him learn how to collect coins, buy him a Red Book, they’re under $15 in many places, in paperback. You’re not helping him out none by teaching to look for crap like this, you’re wasting his time, and misleading him. If you want to teach him how to make money in coins, research how to be a coin dealer. If you want to teach this hobby, get that book.
     
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