Tough San Zhu

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ken Dorney, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I dont expect too much as I think there is just one other here who knows Chinese really well. But I cant find this one anywhere. I have a lot of books (including those confusing references written in Chinese). Its a 3 Zhu from the North & South Dynasties. Obverse is San Zhu, but what is the reverse? Any reference? Hartill really doesnt treat these with much more than a passing. They are scarce to very rare. Any suggestions?

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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't know anything at all about these.

    But, good luck in your quest.
     
  4. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The obverse looks like Si (4) Zhu, not San (3) Zhu. Cursory glance looks like Ding Xiang, which corresponds to H-13.57. (Your right picture would be upside down if this is the case.) You have a very nice specimen there!

    I have read that these were found in Western Han tombs, so fewer collectors are using the traditional dating to around the Sui Dynasty.

    Here is mine, albeit an H-13.55 "Si Zhu" / "Dong A" I got from Scott Semans for $40:

    IMG_7483.JPG IMG_7485.JPG IMG_7486.JPG

    It really does look a lot better in hand...
     
  5. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Yea, that was a typo. Its clearly a Si Zhu. The obverse(?) is as Hartill 13.51. But I dont know what the reverse is. He ascribes the 'hangar' as orienting to the bottom, which makes sense when you read the inscription. I just sold some coins to Hartill. I suppose I should have asked him first. I'll send it off to him and see what he says.
     
  6. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I spoke with David Hartill. He didnt have anything to add on the question. They are all very rare and he was not able to read the inscription.
     
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have a similar coin... ?

    China Sui Dynasty 589-619 CE 4-Shu Hartill 13-53 w-hanger below RARE Obv-Rev.jpg
    China Sui Dynasty 589-619 CE 4-Shu Hartill 13.53 w-hanger below RARE
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Count me in for the weekly giveaway

    :rolleyes:

    ... just jokes (cool coin types, fellas)
     
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