Low grade or details?

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Details or low grade?

  1. Deets

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  2. Lowball

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    All else being equal, what would you get? A low grade coin or a higher grade one that is detailed?
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  3. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Left. Why? The right also would get details graded for harsh cleaning.
     
  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    AH. But in general. Assuming each was an otherwise problem-free coin.

    In other words, a general question: at what point does a detailed higher-grade coin become worth less than a lower grade coin?
     
  5. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Hey
    Hey - have to show Obverse pics also - with what you have shown I say Bullcrap condition pic on the right one and maybe MAYBE GOOD on the other one!
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    they're just run of the mill 1905s. I was trying to decide which one to put in the album, the slick one or the gouged one... At the end of the day I guess they're both worthless anyways :p
     
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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    From the reverse pictures I would take the gouged on the left if I had to pick one.
     
  8. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    I'd be glad to take one of them off your hands. :p

    (This is a joke and not a real buy/sell/trade offer, mods!)
     
  9. Chas Carlson

    Chas Carlson Active Member

    Personally, I'd rather have a lower clean grade over a higher details grade, especially if the coin is scarce.
     
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  10. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Why am I being picture stingy?
    Here you go.
    I'm torn between one that has good details and a slick...
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  11. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    If you can't decide, perhaps it would be best to buy neither, and instead look for a problem free coin that doesn't make you want to buy a problem coin.
     
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  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    good point. actually, why dont I just get both! They're at BV...so call it a bullion investment :)
     
  13. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Because they're likely *not* at bullion value. The coin on the right is likely ~18% short on weight.
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    that much?! Dang. I'll go broke at this rate ...
     
  15. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    It depends on how low of a problem free grade we're talking about. I draw the line at a G4. I would always prefer a problem free good or better over a higher grade details coin. AG and below is a different story though. When major design elements are worn off I consider that a problem coin, straight grade or not. As for the OP examples, I don't care much for either. I would save my money for something better.
     
  16. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Get a dime tube meant to store 50 and some slick barber dimes. You could probably fit about 70 slicks into the dime tube.
     
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  17. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Of those two? Neither. Hate the slick (I can't read the date and you probably can't either once you put it into the album). Not a big fan of the road rash special either.

    Conceptually?
    • First choice would be to save money a bit at a time for a decent, straight-grade one.
    • Second, I'd prefer a lower grade straight-graded coin (but some minimum like G4).
    • Third would be the damaged coin, probably only if it's something I realize I'll never be able to get any other way.
    The thing to ask yourself is "If I settle, will it eat away at me?" Will you be happy with the hole filled or just see it as a blinking red failure, every time you look at the album. Don't do it just to fill the hole if it will make you unhappy.


    For example, I have an (impaired) PF58 in my XF/AU 3CS Set. Given the mintage, that's the best I'm likely going to do...

    Business Strike mintage 4k, most melted in the 1870s.
    PCGS has 2 XF40, 1 XF45, 61 all grades. NGC 2 XF40, 44 all grades.
    Estimated survival 300 all grades.

    Proofs mintage 625.
    PCGS has 7 impaired proofs, 316 total. NGC 220, non impaired.
    Estimated survival 575, all grades.


    If I ever have the opportunity, I'll exchange the PF58 for an XF40/45, but if I never am able to, it's still a very nice piece. And the set has other things that don't, strictly, belong, but they are there because I like them...

    Now there are some other coins in that set where I found a nice XF and moved the AU coin I had initially into other collections.

    Collecting is very, very personal and do what makes YOU happy!
     
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  18. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the input!
     
  19. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Great post.

    BTW, you have an 1867 3CS, right?
     
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  20. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Yes... I figured somebody would figure out the date w/o saying it :happy:, because the business strike and proof mintages - while all small from 1863 on - are all different. The only repeated # is the 600 proofs for 1868, 1869 and 1872.
     
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  21. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    That's the best option most of the time IMHO.
     
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