New Coin Photo Template ideas, help me decide

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by geekpryde, Sep 28, 2024.

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Which do you like better?

Poll closed Oct 5, 2024.
  1. Option 1, the original version BLACK (Circa 2012)

    57.1%
  2. Option 2, new test version BLUE (2024)

    28.6%
  3. Both are Terrible. Keep Working

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Can't decide, both are Great

    14.3%
  1. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I'm trying new Coin Photo Template ideas, help me decide which one to use.

    I'm looking for a way to present my coins that don't already have PCGS TrueViews or Great Collections GreatPhotos. These would mostly be NGC coins.

    I have my old tried and true template Circa 2012 (Option #1)

    I used to love the black, but now not sure if I should do Blue (like GC) or White (like PCGS) or something else.

    Problem with my old templates is that they are fairly small by modern standards. Can't really zoom in.

    1832 0.5C HALF CENT - CLASSIC HEAD NGC AU55 BROWN 3417637-004 CAC.jpg

    1907 1C CENT - INDIAN HEAD, TYPE 3, BRONZE NGC MS63 BROWN 2554381-002 CAC.jpg

    Below is my first attempt at a 2024 version (Option #2). This one is 4000x2000 pixels, similar to GC and PCGS. ~3x as large as the original.


    1832 HALF CENT - CLASSIC HEAD NGC AU55 BROWN 3417637-004 CAC 4000x2000 template v2.jpg

    1907 1C CENT - INDIAN HEAD, TYPE 3, BRONZE NGC MS63 BROWN 2554381-002 CAC 4000x2000 template.jpg

    Update: On your device, it likely wont go as large as it is natively, CT appears to limits files dimensions / file sizes. So I can't even show you just how much larger / higher resolution the new version is.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2024
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  3. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I like the black background best because it doesn't distract at all from the coin. The blue is nice but it draws attention a bit from the coin itself and of course the coin is the main attraction here. Nice half cent by the way.

    Bruce
     
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  4. numist

    numist Member Supporter

    The black background seems to make the coin stand out more.
     
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  5. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I like the format of #2 but I agree, stick with black.
     
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  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Quite agree with Bruce. It is the stark contrast of the black background that makes the coin stand out. Most of my photogs are done with black background. An occasional white back ground as well but the starkness of contrast is essential. The blue lacks this.
     
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    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Blue.....because your coins are darker....in color.....with dark tones around the devices...darker coins look better with a lighter background.
    As the devices stand out with a lighter background. Now if silver coins definitely black .
     
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  9. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I like the blue more. Part of it perhaps is that the background size fits the coin better. The black one has too much empty space and draws my eye more to the label instead of the coin.
     
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  10. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I like both options.
     
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  11. numist

    numist Member Supporter

    Looking back at this I stand by my original thought of black with most coins, namely silver, nickel and darker coppers but the blue does certainly have a place with some other coins. Gold might be a good contrast as bright coppers as well. Maybe even brass tokens and such.
    This looks like a fun project to mix and match to see what works. I'd keep the lighting and focal distance the same and try to set up a side by side comparison. Good luck and have fun!
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Can you give us a sample of the new format with a black background? I like the new layout, but I like the black better.

    And maybe a sample with a silver/nickel coin as well to see the difference?
     
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  13. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Will do.
     
  14. Millard

    Millard Coindog Supporter

    Seems to me the coins on the black background have just a bit more light.
     
  15. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    This whole coin photo thing, is worth every penny you pay PCGS, GC, NGC or a private coin photo person on one of the forums.

    What a royal pain this process is. Between designing the template, takes multiple rounds of photos, sourcing the gear itself, altering the light based on the type of coin, dealing with multiple software packages, Naming and organizing the files, etc.

    :banghead:

    $5-$10 per coin is a bargain! Keep that in mind next time you're going to grumble about paying for TrueViews, if you were ever inclined to do so. Worth every penny by a long shot.

    And I like doing this stuff, and these are my own dang coins! I'll be back in a few months once I get the next 100 coins processed, LOL. Whose big idea was it to undertake this coin photography template update? Oh yeah, me! :depressed:

    :snaphappy:

    Black Test:

    1907 1C CENT - INDIAN HEAD, TYPE 3, BRONZE NGC MS63 BROWN 2554381-002 CAC 2024 template BLACK.jpg

    Gray Test:

    1907 1C CENT - INDIAN HEAD, TYPE 3, BRONZE NGC MS63 BROWN 2554381-002 CAC 2024 template GRAY.jpg


    White Test:

    1907 1C CENT - INDIAN HEAD, TYPE 3, BRONZE NGC MS63 BROWN 2554381-002 CAC 2024 template WHITE.jpg

    Ivory Test:

    1907 1C CENT - INDIAN HEAD, TYPE 3, BRONZE NGC MS63 BROWN 2554381-002 CAC 2024 template IVORY.jpg



    I will probably stick with Black and the Blue, unless there is overwhelming response to the white / gray / ivory color.

    In the end, I think consistency is really more important than the background color. Meaning, if all the "frames" around the coins are the same, across the 100 coins, the overall collection will look COHESIVE, which is really what I am aiming for here.
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2024
  16. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't like the ivory at all. The advantage of the white and grey is it makes those damn prongs seem less invasive. But, I think white and grey will look bad on silver coins if you have many of them.

    I really do think black is your best overall option.
     
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  17. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Black is the best if you want to be consistent for all of your coins. The copper coin does look nice with the grey but probably would not work for silver.
     
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  18. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I realized that all of the photos I like the resolution of, the really crispy macro shots, are very dull looking, as I think I used way too diffused light.

    So really, once I get the templates figured out, my real task it to take a lot more photos.

    The morgans I have for instance, really show the details nice, but are just dull dull dull and just about all the actual luster is stripped from the photos.

    What say you?


    Example:

    morgan example macro dull luster 2000x2000-1.jpg

    So, this will be an ongoing thread of my trials and tribulations as I figure out the workflow and setup to get the photos and templates married up.


    I am 10+ years out of this game, so I am re-learning some of this. And also I need to actually improve upon what I have already done in the past.
     
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  19. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Black test with matte proof, silver coin with little to now shininess.

    1998 S 50C HALF DOLLAR - KENNEDY, SILVER, MATTE PROOF NGC SP69 3695270-002 Template.jpg

    Looks like black template is winning the hearts and minds.


    I am still partial to the blue one, as it has the slight black "shadow" behind the coin, and just looks less stark overall. Maybe I need to add some fancy watermarking at a 45 degree like PCGS and GC do to add some point of interest to the background. Subtle of course, so as to not distract from the coin.
     
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  20. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    Perhaps for darker coins, Blue would be best.. & for silver, gold, or red coppers, Black would do the trick!
    J.T.
     
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  21. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Try the half on the blue and compare. I still like the blue better. Matter of taste I suppose. Black and silver makes it look like a B&W photo to me. Plus as you said the shadow of the rim adds dimension. Maybe even a lighter shade of blue?
     
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