Is This Rare?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by steve.e, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Looks like it is struck on the coin.
    Something I've never seen. IMAG0404_1.jpg IMAG0405_1.jpg IMAG0410.jpg

    What y'all think IMAG0409.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Maybe.. but I would be more convinced if you took it out of the 2x2 and blew all the lint off the surface.
     
  4. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

  5. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Easy to open.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Oh..oops :sorry:
     
  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It's not unheard of for proof sets to have crap stuck inside during packaging
     
  8. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Not gonna bust the package.
     
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  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Actually if you are careful you will not break the plastic but I guess otherwise we will never know for sure. Could be thread or a wire bristle. Could be loose, could be imbedded. Oh, the pain of it all...;)
     
  10. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    1 mr bill.jpg
     
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  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You don't have to crack open the case. Just strike the edge of the case on a hard surface and see if the thread (?) shifts its position. It doesn't have to move much, so you might need to compare the placement with your current images.

    Chris
     
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  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    There are a couple of things making me think it's a foreign object trapped inside the container. First, it's a different color than the coin itself, especially visible in the largest detail image.

    Second, if it were a piece of wire which got caught between die and planchet, it should be incuse on the coin, not a positive. The die would have pressed it into the planchet. Given the direction your lighting is coming from, the direction in which the feature casts a shadow proves that it's a positive on the surface of the coin.

    Since it's a positive, the only way for it to have been struck that way is if it were a negative on the die. Now, how could that happen? The wire - or whatever it is - would have to be stronger than the carefully-hardened steel of the die, some of the hardest steel imaginable, so that it would "win" the battle with the die and impress itself onto it. And here's the kicker: the planchet is far too weak to hold it solidly enough to be impressed into the die. There'd be nothing for the wire to "push" against. Unpossible.

    At least, that's what I see in the evidence presented here.
     
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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Looks like possibly a hub strike through. The "wire" or whatever it is was caught between the hardened steel hub and the soft steel die blank. That WOULD make the negative impression in the die and the raised image on the coin.

    SuperDave was on the right track, he just needed to go back one more step from coin creation to die creation.
     
  15. -Andy-

    -Andy- Andrew B. -Andy- YN

    open it, open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it,open it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'll concede the possibility. Wouldn't we have seen this before, if that were true? And where did the color come from? If it's an artifact of lighting, the glasses have the exact same shape and relief, and should have shown it too.
     
  17. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I don't know, but if I found it in my eggs, I wouldn't eat there anymore.
     
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  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    If you mean hub strikethroughs, they do exist but are seldom seen. Dies are examined before use and during use and hub strikethroughs rarely get into production and when they do are seldom in use for long.

    I don't understand the comment about the color, and it definitely isn't a result of the lighting. The lighting highlights show the feature is raised and it's surface texture seems to match that of the surrounding area.
     
  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Is it rare?

    Nah!

    This one is rare!

    1972-S with Bug encased in OGP.JPG

    001.JPG

    I don't even want to know what that littler critter might be.
     
  20. Onofrio Bacigalupo

    Onofrio Bacigalupo Well-Known Member

  21. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    A reflection of Uranus? THE PLANET for crying out loud!:happy:
     
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