The influence of classical numismatics on modern advertising

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    While buying tires today, I noticed this:

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    Does this remind you of anything?

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  3. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Well spotted !

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  4. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    There's an ancient on our olive oil :oldman:

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  5. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Oh nice! I'll have to keep my eyes open.
     
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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice spotting!

    A wine/coin pairing:
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    Phliasia, Phlious
    AR obol
    400-350 BC
    11 mm, 0.84 gm
    Obv: forepart of butting bull left
    Rev: large Φ surrounded by four pellets
    Ref: SNG Copenhagen 8-9
    Triskeles Sale 9; Oct 2013
    ex BCD Collection, not in previous BCD sales


    Assorted wines with ancient coins on the label, found on the internet:
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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    @TIF That's quite a collection of numismatically-related wines! You must go out of your way to obtain and photograph them.
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I haven't actually purchased any wines with coins on the label.

    Three years ago when I bought the Phliasia obol I and noticed a wine with a similar coin, I thought it would be fun to collect wine/coin pairings. At that time I searched the internet for wine labels with ancient coins. I lost interest due to the high price of some of the coins, and a couple are simply not attainable. I never began the project.

    Might be a fun project for someone else though!

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-bull-phi-and-wine-a-phliasia-obol.238511/#post-1813237
     
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  9. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    good eye i can see how they copied it.. well romans are gone its not copy written
     
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  10. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    interesting thread. :cat:
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    WOW, that is VERY similar to my Carthage AR 2/3 Shekel... those are pretty scarce!

    Carthage AR 2-3 Shekel Tanit-Horse Obv-Rev Sear6491 SNG COP143var-tile.jpg
    Carthage
    AR 2-3 Shekel
    Tanit
    Horse r., looking back
    Ref: Sear6491 SNG COP143var
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    From @TIF 's wine post... Wow, This Is FUN!

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    VERY similar to my Alexander III the Great AR Di-Shekel... with a different control mark...
    Makedon Alexander - Alexandrine Babylonia Di-Shekel LIFETIME 328-311 Baal-Lion.JPG Makedon Alexander - Alexandrine Babylonia Di-Shekel Tetradrachm LIFETIME 328-311 Baal-Lion.JPG
     
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  13. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Well... not quite :D

    The label features a "Dido" tetradrachm, one of my forever unattainable dream coins. Like this one (images and text from acsearch):

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    NAC 96, lot 1039 6. Oct. 2016 price realized: 150'000 CHF
    (images from a prior Kunker sale)
    Greek Coins
    The Carthaginians in Sicily. Tetradrachm, uncertain mint in Sicily circa 320-300,
    AR 17.40 g.
    Description Female head l. (Tanit ?), wearing a necklace and a Phrygian tiara encircled with a band decorated with palmettes. Rev. Lion advancing l., head facing; behind, palm tree with cluster of dates. In exergue, ‘ s'mmhnt’ (people of the Camp) in Punic characters. References
    Rizzo pl. LXVI, 7 (these dies)
    Kraay-Hirmer pl. 72, 207 (these dies)
    Jenkins SNR 56, 1977, 271 Condition
    Extremely rare and possibly the finest specimen known of this magnificent issue, possibly the most desirable of the entire Siculo-Punic series. A spectacular portrait work of a very skilled master engraver perfectly struck and centred on in high relief on a very large flan. Light iridescent tone and good extremely fine

    Provenance
    Künker sale 262, 2015, 7079
    This extraordinary tetradrachm seems to have been struck late in the 4th Century B.C., perhaps between 320 and 310, and very likely in the early part of that range. It belongs to a series containing just three sets of dies, each of which presents this interesting subject matter in a different way. Though each is spectacular and original in its own right, if one set of dies had to be chosen as the most accomplished, it certainly would be the one used to strike this coin. In his die study of the Siculo-Punic series, Jenkins was hard-pressed to find a place for this group among the other series of tetradrachms. Even if the superior style of engraving and the unusual subject matter were not obvious considerations, the fact that only three sets of dies were used and that they do not link with other issues (or even within themselves) demonstrates it was a special and isolated series. Aspects of the engraving style led Jenkins to conclude that they belonged at the end of his series 2d (head of Kore/horse animated before palm tree) or the beginning of his series 3 (dolphins around the head of Arethusa/horse head and palm tree). If linked with Jenkins’ series 3, this coinage might be associated with preparations by the Carthaginian leader Hamilcar (son of Gison) to combat Agathocles; as such, Jenkins suggests they may have been minted for the 2,000 elite citizens who headed the new Carthaginian armada. A convincing interpretation of the designs has thus far been impossible to achieve. The head was traditionally described as Dido (Elissa), the legendary foundress of Carthage, but that identification has not found much support in recent decades. She may also be the personification of Libya, for that would match well with the prowling lion on the reverse. Jenkins objects to that idea, however, noting that celebrating an indigenous people subject to Carthaginian rule would not have been ”consistent with Carthaginian nationalism”. To the contrary, Robinson suggests Libya would have been an ideal subject if the bulk of the Carthaginian army at this time were comprised of mercenaries from Carthaginian Libya. Another possibility is that the Punic goddess Tanit (being in some ways the equivalent of the Greek goddess Artemis) is represented, and in many respects she seems to be the best choice.
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice! Thanks for the update... WISH I could say I had that one! :D
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Wow, what a fun thread this turned out to be!
     
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  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't have anything to add, but I really enjoyed reading this thread!
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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    Close enough? ... sometimes I miss the mark by a tad
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow TIF => hard to believe that your thread is already three years old, eh? (seems like yesterday)
     
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  21. Hispanicus

    Hispanicus Stand Fast!

    All,
    I live near Napa Valley and may have to investigate some of the wineries just to make sure that their wine is as good as the imagery on their labels. A full report, hiccup, will be forthcoming...
     
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