1832 Capped Bust Half, You vs PCGS

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  1. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yeah, Bust Halves are fun. Sometimes all you get to have is an educated guess. :)
     
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  3. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I,m in for AU.
     
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  4. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    AU, probably higher than 50.
     
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  5. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    I'm with the 55 people.
     
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  6. Jedinited

    Jedinited Jayhawk Numismatist

    I'll go with AU55 with an old cleaning and retoned. I dont see much wear.
     
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  7. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    I see 53 wear, but 55 luster. It's a doozy, but I'm going to have to say they gave a bump for luster and color despite the wear. AU55.
     
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  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The grade hasn't changed since last time. I was just trying to see if there was a different consensus with different pictures, which there was.

    This coin was an interesting purchase and is a textbook example of buying the coin and not the slab. The seller, Rich Uhrich sold me the slab not the coin, giving me a price of $245 shipped. I was surprised that he did not try to resubmit.

    I saw it for sale, and then I showed pictures to Bill Fivaz at my coin club for his opinion on the toning. When he gave me the thimbs up, I snappd it up as quickly as I could.

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  9. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Crack it out and send it to NGC. I don't know what PCGS is thinking when it comes to bust coinage in general.

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  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    @TypeCoin971793 , are you going to do another guess the grade of this coin in 2 weeks? Come on man, resubmit that dude already! I have an order going out in a week, if you want me to include it.
     
  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    NGC or PCGS?
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    PCGS
     
  13. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I'm going to wait to submit to NGC. If they think the toning is market acceptable, then they grade it. If not, then it gets AT'ed. No middle ground. PCGS often does not like to make that distiction, so sending to them is a waste of money.
     
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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Interestingly, NGC seems to AT a lot more than PCGS these days. They won't slab a toned Silver Eagle and a lot of other pieces, like old PCI holder toning, that PCGS will.
     
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  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    CYA grade. :rage:

    As a Bustie, meaning the buyer demographic tends to be educated on the type, I'd almost lean towards not risking the expense of a regrade in the current atmosphere of TPG pessimism regarding "NT." Assuming you plan to sell down the road, it's the kind of coin you'd want the buyer to see in-hand at a show or something.
     
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  16. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Well it's a bust, so it doesn't even need to be slabbed to appeal to the kind of people who are interested in CBH.
     
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  17. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    That might just be with moderns and Morgans. I have seen several CBHs with obviously artificial, I mean, induced-with-natural-processes toning in problem-free NGC holders.
     
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