$20.00 Hawaii Note - Surprising Grade

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  1. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hello everyone,

    Today I want to share a note that belongs to my stepson.
    Series of 1934 $20.00 HAWAII
    He purchased it from a seller on eBay who listed it raw with his grade of 60 Choice Uncirculated.
    My stepson paid $566.00 for it.

    I recommended that he send it to PMG to see if it would grade higher. I felt that it would be a higher grade and that the premium would be higher.

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    Well, after many weeks of waiting we were both surprised that it came back as 35 Choice Very Fine.

    We were hoping for a grade of 70 :confused:

    I know it hard for anyone to grade it since we can only provide pictures but we were a little bummed out that it graded lower.

    But the value in our US Paper Currency Book states that in Fine Condition it's valued at $700.00

    We are thinking that Choice Very Fine it could be worth more.

    It that's the case then that would be great because he paid
    $566.00 for the note
    $73.00 to PMG for grading and
    $25.00 for shipping and insurance

    Thoughts and opinions needed. Thanks.

    Maybe @SteveInTampa
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2024
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    That’s a nice looking note Paddy! Choice Very Fine is for the grade of the paper not the overall note. I believe what held it back was the smallest of a slight bend in the top right corner of the note. It shows in the photo when looking at the front. I can’t tell from a photo but on the back the tree on the left just above the crossbar on the H from HAWAII may have 2 small letters that were written onto the note. I hope that’s not the case but this note is a great example of why condition is everything when it comes to paper money.
     
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  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    My reference is out of date but list this $ 20. HAWAII note at $200. In vf.
    Compared the grade as well the two notes....conditions 20240515_130834-01.jpeg 20240515_130905-01.jpeg
    Definitely see the $20 shows wear and handling. As well folds.
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Sep 17, 2024
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    @paddyman98

    Have your son look at TECC www.executivecoin.com I highly recommend this company for both quality as well quanity of US notes and currency.
    Their inventory is updated and fresh, pricing is very fair,and customer service A1!

    I'm sure @Tall Paul will agree....
     
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  7. Tall Paul

    Tall Paul Supporter! Supporter

    I agree, I got a very nice $10 gold certificate from TECC.
     
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  8. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I believe you paid WAY too much for the note. These are consistently sub-$200 notes in this condition.

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  9. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I’d like to see a currency guide that values this note in a VF grade at $700. My guide shows $200.

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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Yes my source was the same guide... I kinda wanted to be conservative as the reference is out of print.
     
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  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    70 is the highest grade. While it may be undergraded at 35, and the note seems pretty crisp, there must be a reason why they graded it 35. I assume they didn't tell you. (Staining, creases, etc.) People will iron out creases which I assume the graders can detect. People bleach notes, etc. Just looking at it, IDK why it's not around 45-50. But I don't have it in hand and under a loupe/ microscope.
    For the seller to list at as 60 (ungraded) is over valuing it.
     
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