1832 Capped Bust Half, You vs PCGS

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  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Last time I posted this, I got a consensus of EF-45/AU-50 dipped. Here are some new pictures from which to judge.

    These pictures accurately show the luster, but not the color:

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    These pictures accurately show the color, but not the luster:

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  3. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Ill go AU-50.

    Actually, because there are 50 states, that may be considered too political. So I change my mind to AU53 just so no one is offended.

    But for sure an AU coin.
     
  4. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

  5. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Not my deal but I think it's a killer coin!
     
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  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I remember this coin came back Questionable color at least once. But it's a nice AU. I'll guess AU53. They've been giving out a ton of 53's lately.
     
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  7. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    put me in the 53 camp
     
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  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    There's a lot of wear on the shield but it is beautiful. I'll go XF45.
     
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  10. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Classic AU53 and a coin I'd love to own...


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  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Fun one. :)

    @Seattlite86, there ain't a chance that shield wears so much without the talon detail disappearing. Then again, there's a ton of anomalies on this coin....

    I have it as O-110. That makes for one amazing anomaly right off the bat - the fact you can see much of the A in STATES and URI at all; this one is notorious for the A being weak and URI missing completely. This coin has those details shown more strongly than all but one of the Mint State examples shown at Heritage, and that one is still weaker. The completeness of the obverse clasp is equally odd.

    That, in turn, makes the softness of the right side of the shield odd. They usually show weakness there, too, but this is anomalous considering the strength of PLU. I'm again drawn to the lack of apparent wear in the talons and lower wingtips to keep me from thinking that the shield is a function of wear.

    I called this a 55 the last time I saw it, and my opinion hasn't changed.
     
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  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'm in for AU-55. Far, far too much luster to be an XF-45 and this is not even a series I collect.
     
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  13. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Find me an EF-45 with as much luster and I'll send you a free coin. The amount of luster is the way to grade these coins, not the level of detail.
     
  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I watched a PCGS XF45 1825 bust half with this much luster. The seller knew that was a stupid grade. Flat strike, booming luster. He was asking AU55 money for it. And sure enough, a couple months later, it was back on eBay as a PCGS AU53.
     
  15. orifdoc

    orifdoc Well-Known Member

    AU53 technical grade bumped up to 55 for eye appeal. Shield appears to me as strike weakness. Not really my series though.
     
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  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

  17. Jaelus

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  18. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    I like it a lot some wear some strike weakness I think it's a 53 but eye appeal might bump it to 55. I'd sure give 53 money for it.


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  19. Jdiablo30

    Jdiablo30 Well-Known Member

    au53,dipped a long time ago and the toning now is from after that dip. Market acceptable.
     
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  20. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Yes, I'm still learning these ones. This coin confuses me about what is worn and what is not. That's why I went ultra conservative. I'd happily have this coin as my US Type Coin any day so I'm betting it grades higher.
     
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