One Sided Jefferson Nickel

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Benjamin Monken, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. Truth1253

    Truth1253 Southern boy

    I just looked it up it's worth ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!


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  3. Truth1253

    Truth1253 Southern boy

    Jj I would definitely have it checked out. I think it's pretty cool anyway.


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  4. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    It's not possible without a struck coin sticking to the hammer die, in which case you end up with a full brockage or a capped die.
     
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  5. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Benjamin,
    I can understand your desire to have something very special, we all want that for the most part. You have been given the best advice possible above by very knowing collectors. If the answer here is not satisfactory, then your next step would be to take it to a knowledgeable dealer for another opinion. If you are still not satisfied then the next step would be to send it to ANAC's as they do specialize in errors. It will cost you some money. If it turns out we were correct then I would expect you to come back, eat a little crow, and own up. If we were wrong then most here would do the same for you. And not to rehash the above, but banks do not certify rolls of coins, only third party graders do this (TPG's) like PCGS, NGC, ANAC's and some T.V. hawkers. People deface coins in all sorts of ways, grinding, polishing, cutting with lasers, acid baths, drilling for jewelery, counter stamping, etc. We have all seen many examples of this over the years and most of us also know the minting process well enough to have given the answers we did.
     
  6. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Probably not. As long as the weight is close enough, it will pass through an automated counter just fine. And, if it was a customer-wrapped roll, all bets are off.
     
  7. Truth1253

    Truth1253 Southern boy

    Hey Benjamin go have it checked out by someone. I've learned from personal experience from "What's it worth" that these so-called experts on here are wrong at times. The coin snobs I dealt with hit me like coin nazi's on my gold medal that they swore up and down it was a fake. I called one of them a name and they suspended me for 30 days. Lol They we're all dead wrong and I was the one with the smile on my face. I got no apology, but who cares. THEY WERE DEAD WRONG. LMAO


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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    You should do yourself a favor and look up on "Google" how a coin is struck. What you are trying to convince "many a years" collectors. Is that the mint inserted a used ground down obv. die? What year roll did this come out of?
     
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  10. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    I love how people ask a question on here and then tell us we're all wrong when it's not the answer they wanted to hear...... Good old ignorance at its finest...
     
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  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I can't think of any way to keep the second planchet so perfectly centered when the collar doesn't stick up far enough to contain more than one.

    If you're so certain, Benjamin, how about you explain your theory regarding how this could happen during a strike? I'm always willing to learn. Given that you thought nickels were clad, forgive me if I'm skeptical, though.
     
  12. Truth1253

    Truth1253 Southern boy

    ^^^Like I said coin nazi's that think they're so "above" and yet have no class.


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  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Then what's your theory, or are you just here to be argumentative? If I weren't willing to listen, I'd have walked away.

    I've helped you here before, Truth1253. This is the thanks I get? It'll be the last time, because I won't be seeing any of your posts again.
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    If it were significantly
    Yep, you only get "class" by calling people Nazi's... something. (Nazi's kneecaps? Nazi's nose-hairs? Oh, I think I like that one best.)
     
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  15. Truth1253

    Truth1253 Southern boy

    I just don't like better than attitudes and I stick up for the underdog when I see them getting to the point of being mocked. I do apologize SuperDave. If you took the time out of your day to help me then for that I do thank you.


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  16. Truth1253

    Truth1253 Southern boy

    Oh Jeffery smh


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  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Ok.. So sometimes mistakes are made. But most of the time we are correct. The nickel in question looks Post Mint Damage to me. The OP asked the question and we did our best to respond. So not once has he accepted our responses. I could think of 1 or maybe 2 other ways that it could be an error. One is maybe a split planchet. Unlikely but a small possibility. If he shows the edge it could be verified.
    By the way. What gold medal are you referring too?
     
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  18. PMD coin was sand blasted and polished. Not all scales or measuring instruments are if the same quality. See this on a lot of nickles because they are fat. lol
     
  19. The best way to solve this debate is two fold how many have been certified? If you disagree then prove us wrong! Send it to be certified, they will take your$$ and return the coin. A client did this and it came back in a slab.Certified as 1885D 5c Post Minting Damage. With no certification number on slab.
     
  20. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Benjamin
    let me see if I can explain this clearly for you. the first step in the process of making a coin at the mint is that the blank is sent through the upsetting mill which puts the rim on the coin. this puts a rim on both sides of the blank, now called a planchet. the planchet then goes through the press where it is held centered on the anvil die with a collar and is then struck with the hammer die, this applies equal pressure to both sides of the coin.

    now, as to your coin. It has been through the upsetting mill and should have rims on both sides. it does not. it should have images of relatively equal strike on both sides. it does not. if it was delamination (split planchet) the obverse would be ragged where it separated. it is not.if it was two planchets struck at once the obverse would be wavy and the reverse would show an abnormallr strong strike. it does not.
    I can not think of any possible way your coin could have been made at the mint, and I have been studying errors for many years.

    So how was your coin created. In the 1800's it was common practice to make love tokens out of coins. they would grind down one surface and then polish it to a mirror surface before engraving initials into it. they were able to achieve this with 1800's technology, no scratches showed on these coins. with todays technology is is even easier to accomplish this.

    Your coin is post mint damage. nothing more, nothing less
    Richard
     
  21. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I think that the mint couldn't get the lid on the roll so they shaved some off the end.
     
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