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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pishpash, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I argue/learn about "everything" coins all day at work. What you and others consider an argument, I consider a learning experience and a discussion. Tell you what. I respect a few here (such as yourself). I don't wish to rock the boat. You ancient guys have a "little private world here" so... in the interest of peace; I'll continue to lurk and keep any comments as simple as: "This is bunk."
    One condition. @Bing or someone needs to tell me where and how he posts the funny stuff like the crybaby as I'm :bucktooth: computer illiterate. It should be worth it don't you think?
     
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  3. Insider

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    Then why don't the labs use distilled. The deionized water system a the lab I visited uses FOUR different tanks to make it.
     
  4. tbc

    tbc Well-Known Member

    I can't speak on behalf of others, cordial or not but I personally would welcome the facts that remove any doubt about the statements you have made in regard to this topic.

    I'll give you a little nudge along the corrosion route. What facts can you provide that categorically show that what you can see on the uncleaned coin is responsible for what you can see on the cleaned coin ?
     
  5. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Haha! @Insider Ya you need bigger emoticons! ;)You know, I wasn't thinking of the discussions here as arguments but was thinking when I'm at work arguing about a jet.
     
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  6. Insider

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    It appears that "he" has gone that route, although he says "they" will not have him and he does not wish to work in a conservation lab. I can personally relate to that. Sometimes the best people and the best results take too much time for an employer who just wished to "get by." And some don't like to conform to bosses or rules about what constitutes "conservation."
     
  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Possibly because distillation systems are expensive (DI setups aren't cheap either) and require attention and upkeep that DI systems don't. As to the 4 tanks, I don't know, most of the systems I have seen have one or two "processing" units or perhaps you could call them tanks that run directly off the city water lines. Upkeep in these systems requires changing the processors/tanks.
     
  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    THIS PARAGRAPH IS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU and I applaud your curiosity and question. I question EVERYTHING myself.

    This is a perfect example of what I hate about forums. It gets really old posting over-and-over about things that should be obvious. Example: We have a thread on the US forum. A photo is posted with a request: "what is it."
    The next poster got the correct answer. The same answer was given in three out of five of the next posts. Then, I explained in detail what to look for, how to determine what it was, and why the photo was confusing everyone. They are still trying to figure out the "truth" several pages later. I even tagged a nationally known error authority to help out but he is rarely found on CT.

    Corrosion pits have been sited on the finished coin already. IMO, anyone contemplating collecting ancients should know more about corrosion, what it looks like, its effects, and how to control it.

    I'll guarantee if I had that coin in hand (with the photo of the original) I could prove it is corroded with magnified images AND possibly convince any doubters about the silvering (one way or the other) by examining the corrosion pits themselves. This optical examination should take less than two minutes. If this were a legal case, a few hundred dollars could detect cyanide or other chemicals that may still be present that were used to restore it.

    I have only one advantage over most of you. I have been studying the surfaces of coins (including ancients) from 5X to 40X (120X in some cases) for a long time. Sometimes I think I must recognize characteristics in the images a little quicker than most.

    BOTTOM LINE: The coin came out great and I praised the "coin doc." No one but me cares what and how he "saved" it. That's OK with me. :D

    Again, thanks for you interest! :) As one member said...If I cannot talk about them then I must enjoy seeing my writing about coins.:p
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Insider , it may also mean they do not wish to get banned. I advise you to reconsider your remark, as you are not correct on your assumption.
     
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  10. Insider

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    God I wish you would start a thread about that! I was at a dinner with some naval officers and the subject turned to the nuclear fleet. They knew so much classified information (in they're eyes to each othe) that they could not bring up at the table. One thing they MY wife is upset as I was to take her out and have been posting to be continued.
     
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  11. Insider

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    Thanks for the warning. I hate to be trouble so I have been very careful right? I don't think anything sarcastic or caustic has been said but I'm not the mod. I'm using that as an example. They can say anything to me at their risk as I can take the humor.
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    More borderline today, that is why the warning, Re-read Dougs threads on how to treat fellow members.
     
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  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I work for the nuclear navy. We make DI water where I work. It's a lot more complicated than just that.
     
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  14. Insider

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    I wish you would start a thread about that! I was at a dinner with some naval officers and the subject turned to the nuclear fleet. They knew so much classified information (in they're eyes to each other) that they could not bring up at the table. One thing they did tell us that was possibly classified in the 1940's was this interesting tidbit. I'll probably get it wrong as decades have past but you'll get the drift.

    The Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean is connected (you all knew that). One body is more salty. The water mixes back and forth ON TWO LEVELS one in and one out. I think the salty level is on the top. The subs would go up to the strait, turn off their engines and let the current take them either into the Med or out depending on the depth they were at! COOL! Jet thread, Jet thread!

    EDIT: @physics-fan3.14

    Sub Thread too, Sub Thread too! Have you ever heard about the med "trick" from an old-timer?
     
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  15. Insider

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    I will, besides, I'm hopping Bing will clue me about his images and then I'll keep my promise for only short comments.
     
  16. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Yeah, they were straight up lying to you. That is not how things work. I can't tell you how they do work because it is classified.... But they were telling you tall tales.
     
  17. Insider

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    :bigtears::bigtears::bigtears::bigtears: I should think that's more typical of swabbies! Can you tell us any stories (unclassified) that Russia & China already know?
     
  18. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

  19. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Nope, never had the honor of joining any service. I am a contractor for a company who's only customer is the navy.
     
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  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    What more is there to it? I know there are three ways to do things: the right way, the wrong way and the military way. :)
     
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  21. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Haha!
     
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