Cleaning

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pishpash, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Honestly??? Why is it that YOU must answer for him? And I heartily agree with @Bing ... there has only been ONE person that I have ever had to ignore. And I gave him the benefit of the doubt THREE times! Hoping that his behavior would improve. Why is it that YOU must explain HIS poor behavior??? I am beginning to feel that you are of the same feather...
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I understand where @Kentucky is coming from @Alegandron, and I believe he is giving the person the same benefit of doubt you have and many of us have. It's the right thing to do. But, at some point, that benefit needs to stop.
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    If you found my posts to be offensive, I apologize...I'm married, I'm used to apologizing.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Good man. A happy wife makes marriage a lot easier. Some of my favorite sayings:
    Yes Mamam
    You're right Dear
    I won't do it again, I promise
     
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  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Do it. Get her cleaned. I bet you she's got most of the silvering intact. Beautiful coin , Mathews
     
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  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    My sister is on her 4th marriage.my brother was married 3X and I'm with the same lady, 36 years later.
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    My wife and I married very, very young. Almost 49 years ago. My wife is 64 so that will give you an idea of how young.
     
  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Sincere congratulations.
     
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  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Back from a long day at work and a nice dinner, otherwise I should have replied much sooner.

    Let's get some things clear.

    1. Pish's coin was corroded and still shows signs of it. You can either believe what you wish or learn what active corrosion looks like and what it does to the surface of a coin.

    2. I learned something here that I need to verify. @Kentucky, a chemist, claims that it is possible for a silvered surface to remain under corrosion. I should NEVER believe that based on my experience dealing with corroded coins; however, I will tend to believe him for now. As to resilvering ancients - it is done (plenty) and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to do it. I told a member of the ancient forum a very simple and cheap way (without electricity) in a PM this morning.

    3. I VERY RARELY give out praise to anyone. The "Omega Man" a state-of-the-art-counterfeiter in the 1970's was one I can remember. YOC is another. What he did to Pish's corroded coin is incredible. That's why I called him an artist and a genius. That is as true as the fact that the coin was a corroded EDIT before he fixed it. I believe he used both a mechanical (ultrasonic) and chemical (?) treatment. Again, YOC is a "coin doctor." I like to consider that in many ways I am also. :shame:

    As I posted in another thread, I'm going to test the presence of a silvered surface on the green stuff that I shall not name for fear of inciting riot. :D
     
  11. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Its just the way you say it man. I mean you give praise to YOC in the same vein as you give a counterfeiter. That's not very flattering, in fact if I was YOC Id be a little pissed off to see my work praised next to a fraud. Also is the best way to silver a coin using cyanide?
     
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  12. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Unbelievable change, love it. Absolutely improved the eye appeal. Question though, if selling this coin, would you mention that it was cleaned ( details ) ??? Not judging, just curious.

    John.
     
  13. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    All ancients are cleaned in one way or another
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    The only time I ever did any silvering (many, many years ago) I did use cyanide and an old half-dollar I had. Me and a friend silver plated some NYC subway tokens for secretaries where we were at Brooklyn Poly.
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    There is a difference between CONSERVATION and CLEANING. If it can be proved that the coin was plated, tooled, etc. then it is a moral decision by the seller. In my experience (without citing a specific case here) 80% to 95% of collectors/dealers cannot tell a counterfeit, doctored, tooled, or repaired coin if their life depended on it! If it were not for TPGS's, they would get their eyes picked out. :jawdrop::facepalm: :shifty:
     
  16. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    @Insider Ive been wondering since I do fall in that 80-95% range is this one real?? philip1.14.jpg
     
  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Perhaps that is one of those trade secrets in Henley's. A chemist here says he did it using cyanide; but I don't play with that stuff. Maybe, a member on the ancient forum knows something, then again, maybe not or he cannot say. Out of curiosity, I'll look it up. YAlthough you can possibly get a quicker answer on the Internet
     
  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :rolleyes::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: YES IT"S REAL!!! Come on. :p
     
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  19. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    The coin is not for sale so I hadn't really thought about it.

    I keep a record of before and after cleaning, I would happily offer photos to the buyer if they wanted them. Remember that all ancient coins have been cleaned to some degree.
     
  20. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    Pish, You have no need or requirement to tell anyone the coin was cleaned. Every coin posted here and every coin sold at any auction has been cleaned. The sellers know it, the auction knows it.
    If a coin had been restored, ie tooled or had holes filled or was plated, then it should be disclosed, but yours has clearly had none of these things done, so you have no duty to tell anyone. IMO :)
     
  21. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    He doesnt know what hes talking about, so I chose to ignore him. Hes so far off the mark it isnt even worth helping him back on the correct course....
    thankfully my life is now insider free!!
     
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