Holy Cow!!! I think i have a dropped letter, on a Morgan!!!!

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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  3. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    This is just another reason why I'm glad to have started this hobby. I get a real thrill (like on blueberry hill) when I stumble upon stuff like this. It's not the moon $ variety I had hoped for , but you live, to fight another day.:)
     
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  4. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    :D

     
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  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Sorry to have missed the party. Superdave got it right off. The reason it may "look" Like a D/D is because as the surface metal split away (note the cavity under the high , upturned part) it became offset just a little. Some people "superglue" the piece back down and some rip it away to make a large "detached lamination" where only the surface under the lamination shows. You have a really neat coin at an exceptional price! Look on Ebay to check the prices.

    I know of one Tampa coin dealer who buys 21's in bulk and many times this type of error is in the batch as many dealers :bucktooth: consider them culls. They go right to ICG and then to Ebay.
     
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  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    It looks like a lamination to me. I'd have to examine it up close to see why it looks like a lamination from a different coin that got stuck to this one, but that's almost the appearance that it gives, which is pretty weird.
     
  7. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Now this makes much more sense to me, I can plainly see a raised chunk of metal north of the D, like a die chip, and the underlying D looks perfectly normal. There isn't any disturbance or cracks in it... But there is another D sitting right on top of it, like it came from another coin, I can't explain it,
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I'm going to give my thought on what I am observing..as @messydesk mentioned
    It's not even a letter D. What you are seeing is part of another letter most likely from another Morgan. The raised part does not look like a complete whole D. It also looks thicker than the D in Dollar.
    I think another Morgan had a Lamination (De-Lamination) piece that fell off and when the next Morgan was struck the small De-laminated piece ended up embedded into the perfect letter D on the Morgan in question.
     
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  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Look again. Start at the very top of the "D." There is a short rectangular section of silver (attached to the rest of the lamination). Note how this top piece goes off in a diagonal to the left? The dull silver rectangle left where the lamination lifted away is perpendicular. It is all the same coin! A simple, common, fairly large lamination error that is starting to TWIST off. ;)
     
  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    PADDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing came off, it is still attached.:(
     
  11. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Can anyone explain why, the top D is filled in, like from grease, and the underlying D is NOT grease filled, it doesn't show very good in the photo but that's what's going on here, and the top D or whatever it is, is folded over like it was left over from another coin and smashed into this one
     
  12. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    This ^^^^^
    I just looked again, it all lines up perfectly, it's twisted a bit to the left. It appears to be a lamination but probably got jostled around which made it shift, to the left
     
  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It looks attached because it's embedded into it. If the original D was laminated it would be raised off of the field.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    This is basic stuff that we are trying to complicate. Asked and answered. Will a member please @ the error expert whose name has escaped me at the moment. He writes a column in Coin World. It is not Potter.

    The entire piece shows a split almost completely around it.

    Start at the top of the "D." There is a short rectangular section of silver (attached to the rest of the lamination). Note how this top piece goes off in a diagonal to the left? The dull silver rectangle left where the lamination lifted away is perpendicular. It is all the same coin! A simple, common, fairly large lamination error that is starting to TWIST off.

    The reason it may "look" Like a D/D is because as the surface metal split away (note the cavity under the high , upturned part) it became offset just a little.
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    YES! YES! :joyful:


    Now what is his name, this is embarrassing that I cannot remember.

    @paddyman98 It is raised up off the surface.;)
     
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  16. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I have always loved Double D's
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Exactly. Just unusual. Notice my first post. I had feeling some people might confuse this one ;)
     
  18. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Mike Diamond???
     
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  19. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes I see that.. but with a perfect intact struck D underneath? Which does not seem De-laminated at all?
     
  20. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

  21. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Cool coin . . . a hinged clamshell delamination of a portion of the letter D . . . Neither the upper D nor the lower D are complete . . . . the two halves compliment each other to complete the intended character.
     
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