New Daniel Carr Morgan Dollar

Oh golly. You got me. I'm an idiot.

 

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Yes, I'm reposting my own words. This will forever be my message:

"Dan, you play a part in the fraud if you choose not to do anything. It's the sin of inaction, if you will. Please accept responsibility for it and make it right. Add your signature to all your pieces and you'll make it exponentially harder for a scammer to take advantage of someone. The words on your website are great, but your actions will speak much louder."

 

He could seal them in Lucite too! He can add just about anything you and the others can come up with; unfortunately, everything except his DNA can be copied on a counterfeit. And I'm sure his DNA can be copied/applied if taken from a genuine specimen.

I hope there is some way we can get all the "wish-to-do-gooder's" and "control-freak-watchdogs" out of our lives. They're the types that get "COPY" and warning labels on stuff. I don't think many of the idiots even know what the word "Copy" means. Better a label: The genuine specimen of this piece is made of gold. This gray-colored lump of lead that does not resemble the original in any way is stamped with an "R" indicating it is a replica.

In case you have not guessed or care; I believe in natural selection. It eliminates the dummies from the gene pool. When it is not allowed to function, we get...

 

@Insider, I respect your opinion.

 

Thank you, and I yours...really.


PS The in me wanted to post: "Of course you do."

 

He is playing no part in fraud, he clearly labels the pieces and sells them with full disclosure. If someone represents them as genuine U.S. mint struck pieces, then they are committing fraud.

If someone buys one from a seller who misrepresents it, then they would have full legal recourse against the seller.

 

It was your little "hate" comment, genius. Was it necessary? Could the same request not have been made without your childish insistence on flinging poo? Sure, but what fun would that be when you can later bellyache about how terrible those you insult are.

If you really want me to dig up more of the unprovoked mud, just say so.

 

Troll away troll

 

I totally disagree because the alleged fraud that could take place would likely NOT have occurred if he had clearly "marked" all his overstrike tokens. Therefore he is implicitly involved, even if secondarily.
There's an easy way for him to step away from that involvement: sign his work.

 

Question. If I sell an unmarked counterfeit coin and fully advertise it as a fake, then the buyer pays for it and turns around and sells it as genuine.... am I not implicated in the fraud? I think I am! Because I failed to protect the hobby and clearly mark it as a copy.

 

Invalid simile. These aren't counterfeits

 

The analogy still works. I think you understand my message, even if you don't want to agree with it.

 

Now IMO, this post is something you like to do quite often. Books is not a troll. I'm not a troll (?) . I should think that you are not a troll either. Better to post a rebuttal to Books don't you think?

 

Rebuttal to what exactly?

 

You are entitled to that opinion, however it has no basis in law. Before slandering someone and accusing them of fraudulent behavior, I would advise that you consult with your attorney.

 

C-B-D posted: "I totally disagree because the alleged fraud that could take place would likely NOT have occurred if he had clearly "marked" all his overstrike tokens. Therefore he is implicitly involved, even if secondarily. There's an easy way for him to step away from that involvement: sign his work."

You just changed my mind. Great Idea and that should settle it once and for all. I suggest he put a microscopic "c" on the edge.

"If I sell an unmarked counterfeit coin and fully advertise it as a fake, then the buyer pays for it and turns around and sells it as genuine.... am I not implicated in the fraud? I think I am! Because I failed to protect the hobby and clearly mark it as a copy."

If you did that, shame on you. However it happens all the time, and has before we were both born. And when the car you sold thirty years ago kills someone you should be jailed. And when the chemical you flushed down a drain causes harm (and it does in some way) you should be jailed. GET THE MESSAGE YET? If you wish to live in a police state any sooner than the way we are headed there are many places you can go... wonder if they will respect your opinions?

 

Good God, Andy, if you think I just slandered the man, then you're living in la-la-land. And if you'd taken the time to read the thread, you'd know that not once have I said he's breaking the law. My stance is one of right and wrong, and protecting the hobby.

 

A little over the top, Insider, don't you think? Lmao

 

I have read the full thread, including the statutes quoted. I rarely comment on any boards, preferring to read and absorb the knowledge. I also see your opinion that you believe he should sign his work.

However to say that he is complicit in a hypothetical fraud perpetuated by someone else is frankly slanderous.

 

Little boy can't be a big boy, so he reverts to more insults... what a surprise! It's funny how the most ignorant comments come from the same individual who so happily accuses others of just that. Schmuck.