An Australian gold sovereign from the 1882 RMS Douro shipwreck

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Aug 17, 2024.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    This recent purchase is my first Young Head Victoria sovereign and also my first Shield type sovereign. It also fulfills another item I’ve been wanting: a piece of gold with a shipwreck pedigree. The nice thing about gold is that it can survive seawater immersion for centuries without corrosion, so this coin has a straight Mint State grade with no “shipwreck effect” qualifiers.

    The coin was struck at the Sydney mint in 1877 and was part of the cargo of the British Royal Mail steamship Douro, which sank in a nighttime collision with the Spanish ship Yrurac Bat off Cape Finisterre near the Spanish and Portuguese coast, on the evening of April 1, 1882.

    All of Duoro’s passengers and 32 of her crew were saved, but the captain and five of his officers- and the ship’s treasure of gold coins and bullion- sank with Douro in 1,500 feet of water. 53 people aboard the Spanish ship also perished when it too sank.

    The wreck was found in 1993 and salvage operations were completed by 1996. There were some 28,000 gold coins brought up from the Douro wreck. Most were gold sovereigns, but there were also some rare Brazilian and Portuguese coins.

    I find shipwreck coins fascinating. I guess there’s the natural appeal of a historical gold coin here, but also some touches of romance, tragedy, and adventure. To me, it would have been a lovely enough coin anyway, but the added history behind the shipwreck pedigree made it irresistible, so I threw caution to the wind and did what I had to do to beat the competition and win the auction.

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  3. asheland

    asheland The Silver Lion

    That’s a great looking example!
     
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  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Very nice! And I agree there is an allure to shipwreck silver or gold coins.
     
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  5. Robidoux Pass

    Robidoux Pass Well-Known Member

    Wow! Great story behind the coin. The tale makes it worth having.
     
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  6. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    @lordmarcovan
    "The nice thing about gold is that it can survive seawater
    immersion for centuries without corrosion."
    The purity of the Sovereign is .9167. So depending how well
    mixed the gold alloy was will result in the seawater corrosion,
    most likely copper. The copper in your coin was not touched
    by the seawater. In smaller U.S. gold coins, well mixed is not
    always the case.
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    True, some sea-salvaged gold does get encrusted as a result of the seawater interacting with the base metals the coins were alloyed with.

    One of the dealers who handled the RMS Douro sovereigns did mention that a number of them had “rust spots”. Not technically accurate (since neither gold nor the copper in the alloy will rust, both being nonferrous metals), but it seems those probably did suffer some deposits:
    Apparently most of the Australian coins like mine were nice, though, and in higher grade.
     
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  8. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    I agree. I've got a couple of coins salvaged from a shipwreck, but mine aren't gold. But, they are still in decent condition. Like you said, there's just something about a shipwreck. I had an opportunity to go a little different direction than a coin from a shipwreck, and I took it. This is from a shipwreck, it's gold, but not a coin. It's a gold nugget from the 1849 era California Gold Rush. Found in a safe in a leather pouch on the SS Central America. I think it's very different, owning a gold nugget from that time period (of course, I like history).
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    You’ve got a piece of one of the truly legendary shipwrecks there. And no doubt you didn’t have to pay the eye watering price an SS Central America coin would’ve set you back!

    PS- it is remarkable to me how they remotely salvaged such tiny nuggets from so deep in the ocean, with ROVs and such.
     
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  10. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    No sir, I paid $80.00 for it, and didn't blink an eye. My wife, who doesn't share the "thrill" of coin collecting like I do, probably made up for my lack of eye movement, many times over! Not really, she encouraged me to buy it. She supports me, to a point, but doesn't see why anyone would want to keep a bunch of coins lying around, and worse, take them out and "play" with them. I'm exaggerating, but not a much as I wish I was. Now jewelry.... ☺️
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I’d totally pay 80 bucks for one of those slabbed nuggets.
     
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