IT’S ALL WRONG…

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by OddFitt, Jul 25, 2024.

  1. OddFitt

    OddFitt New Member

    All your thoughts and knowledge!!
    Got a 1974 Kennedy Half no mint from the bank.
    -It weights almost a gram short at 10.4g
    -It’s close to 2.5mm smaller then other halves at about 28mm
    -the reeds are sharper and look like solid brass/copper blend sandwiched between tin.
    Iv looked at US Planchets and as for the other countries we minted for in ‘74, Liberia,Nepal,Panama,Philippines etc etc only Panama was minted in Philly and the planchet was to light. Take a look at picks and help a guy out here. B81E725A-5ADA-4D89-8282-AD6489ED7438.jpeg 489ECC7E-74D5-4B4E-AF44-797A9589E2E7.jpeg D24CD4E9-4CE1-4230-8859-657F3AB3064E.jpeg 78C6AF67-08C5-403D-9753-995BD9E12B32.jpeg DF4EFDD3-6C9C-4F6A-8F3D-946B27FDE4CD.jpeg 8E88BC52-5834-4833-88BF-AA512A713097.jpeg 99C43FD5-31DF-4F3C-912A-05B4518D730C.jpeg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Interesting Houdini!
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  4. bikergeek

    bikergeek Well-Known Member

    This is interesting. It looks at first glance like someone filed the rims down... but then how to explain the super-sharp reeding? I'll be watching this space for more info!
     
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  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Do you have a thickness gauge or tool to measure the thickness of each? I tried to do so on the screen, but not as accurate. I think the coin is thicker by a tiny amount and due to being in a revolving device, but it would take a gauge to prove. Jim
     
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  6. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    That would work for sure, but I suspect if the coin was layered, it would blow separated piece around the room. I use a Perspex shield for such fun things as I had to use one for the college's electron microscope back in the 60s :)
     
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  8. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

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  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That wouldn't change the weight like that, though.
     
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  10. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

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  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Interesting indeed! I can't think of a way that a US half could be struck from a US die in a US dollar, AND have a diameter that much smaller, AND still have sharp reeding. If it had been electromagnetically shrunk, we'd see visible distortions on the faces.
     
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  12. OddFitt

    OddFitt New Member

    Taiwan is the only planchet of all I saw on the pdf file I’m uploading that was in ‘74 at Philly Mint and is close in weight. It’s tuff to find pics of the reeds to compare. There is a lot of info in the file to go over.
    I thank you for your time and knowledge.
    My research shall continue. Thanks again
     

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  13. OddFitt

    OddFitt New Member

    I don’t have a gauge yet but has been ordered. Thank you for input
     
  14. OddFitt

    OddFitt New Member

    I thought that at first also and I agree about the reeding too.
     
  15. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

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  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    For the coin to be smaller, I would think the coin was struck using the wrong collar.
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Right, and it beats me how it could be struck in a smaller collar with standard dies...
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I think that would have to damage the dies or the collar but I don't really understand the coin.
     
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  19. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2962.html
    The diameter matches the Taiwan 5 New Dollars at 29mm but weighs 9.5g. Thickness 2mm.
    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6918.html
    Kennedy half weighs 11.34g, diameter 30.61mm, thickness 2.15mm.
    If your scale is accurate, it's 9.5% overweight. The collar issue is why I originally thought it may have been shrunk, but that doesn't explain why it's 9.6% light vs the Kennedy. In the first photo it looks marginally thicker too, when it should be .15mm thinner. Curious.
     
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  20. OddFitt

    OddFitt New Member

    Yes my scale is accurate. I verified with other known weights. I agree with everything you are putting out there. I did a lot of research before posting. I too am very curious. That’s why I titled this “it’s all wrong” cause With all info I could find, everything being just a bit off in every aspect I was hurting my brain that’s when I posted.
     
  21. OddFitt

    OddFitt New Member

    Yes Taiwan is the closest yet that is listed at 9.5g which is same difference in opposite direction of what it should be. Which is why I’m still searching
     
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