Got this Ptolemaic

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by cmezner, Jul 13, 2024.

  1. cmezner

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    Yesterday I bought this nice Ptolemaic coin; it is a very common issue, I just liked it:)

    AE 80 Units
    Alexandria, 205 – 180 BC, struck under Ptolemy V Epiphanes

    15.59 g (haven't measured the diameter yet)
    Svoronos 1384, 80 Units marked series class 3; Faucher & Lorber Series 7b; SNG Copenhagen 286
    (the coin flip says Svoronos 1234, which I think is wrong because from what I researched at www.ptolemaic.net and here at CT, Svoronos 1234 is unmarked).

    The monogram ΠΑ on the reverse of this issue is almost certainly a control symbol, not a mintmark.

    Ob.: Head of Cleopatra I as Isis to r., hair in corkscrew locks, wearing wreath of grain ears. Border of dots.
    Rev.: ΠTOΛEMAIOY BAΣIΛEΩΣ Eagle standing to l. on thunderbolt with open wings; monogram ΠΑ in l. field. Border of dots.

    Picture courtesy HJB:

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    and of course I looked through HJB's pick-bin and got four coins that I have to attribute. Will share when I find out what they are:)

    Please share your Ptolemaic coins of Cleopatra I or anything relevant.
     
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  3. Ancient Aussie

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    Fantastic coin, real quality.
     
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  4. philologus_1

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    Attractive 1384 example! It appears to have lovely smooth surfaces!

    The dating may be a little later the reign of Ptolemy V though. Search on the page linked below to find the coin photo for "Sv1384", then read the paragraph above it:
    http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html

    Then scroll down the chronological info at the following link to the corresponding time period to see the associated rulers:
    http://www.houseofptolemy.org/housekng.htm

    Here is my Svoronos 1384 example. As you can see the surfaces are rough with some porosity compared to yours.
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    Diameter: 28.4 mm. Weight: 12.5 gr.
     
  5. cmezner

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    Can't see what you mean by "The dating may be a little later the reign of Ptolemy V though"
    I followed the link and the dating for Ptolemy V is 205/4 - 180 BCE, which is also the date on the coin flip. The link to "Short biographical sketch of Ptolemy V" isn't working.

    Search on the page linked below to find the coin photo for "Sv1384", then read the paragraph above it:
    http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html

    If I understand correctly the paragraph, the dating refers to Class 2 coins:
    "If the Class 2 coins' obverse inscription refers to the period of 168 - 163 BC and pertains to the rule of Ptolemy VI, then the best dating for these may well be from some a bit earlier than 168 BC to some time after 163 BC."
     
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