I am looking at this example. It fits what I want in an Elephant JC coin. but I have no idea what prices should be. Thanks for any help.
Or, see last auctions, (a little) more. You can see all priestly emblems with nice details. Elefant side will be well centered. Elefant presentation was wonderful. CAESAR Legend was full. Capsuled. 1.800 USD or a little more round about. ---- For your help - I can give you price that I realize last weeks - so you get a feeling about the prices and conditions. This one for round about 1.200 USD sold. This one for round about 1.000 USD sold. The problem with this JC type is the following: 1. buying this Caesar type at Auctionhouse or Dealer is not "cheap"! I never see a JC Elefant the last days, weeks and month under 1.000 USD in a good condition (inklude auction house fees). 2. If you want make a better price catch, you must buy it private - but important, next point (3)... 3. This is the most common type of JC that is counterfeited on the market! There are so many (also well made) tourist forgeries of this JC Elephant Denarius and also extremely many well made commercial forgeries by scammers! Even as a dealer, I only buy this type if an expert has really checked the denarius before I buy it. And even then - I only buy this type from another dealer / auction house that I can possibly return the denarius to. Long story short - if you buy this type of JC Elephant, then only from a reputable dealer / auction house. As a beginner, you should never buy this type privately or on eBay and the like (unless you had the chance to check the denarius for authenticity before buying it).
If you want a price table... from "cheap" to "expensive"... 1. Crawford RRC 467/1b https://numismatics.org/crro/id/rrc-467.1b 2. Crawford RRC 458/1 https://numismatics.org/crro/id/rrc-458.1 3. Crawford RRC 443/1 https://numismatics.org/crro/id/rrc-443.1 4. All Denarius with Caesars face after his death 5. All Denarius with Caesars face before he died
Ed - the centering and strike on that elephant is pretty good. That's a point in its favor. For me, the marks on the reverse hurt it enough that I personally wouldn't want it, but it will bring the price down to help make it more affordable for you.
I found a couple more I am looking at. They are both the same price, around 1750. One is slabbed and the the other is just the coin no slab. The not slabbed coin IMO has more detail. The other is close but not quite as much detail but slabbed.
I would advise you to be very patient, wait for the right piece, and buy carefully at auction. These are not rare coins... they are just very high in demand. For example, Heritage alone currently has 38 up to cross the block in the next few months: https://coins.ha.com/c/search/resul...e=live&page=200~1&ic=KeywordSearch-A-K-071316
I saw at Heritage they have in past auctions make an offer to the buyer. Where they are willing to resell the coin. I made an offer and have some others in reserve. Not sure how this goes but worth a try.
I looked at past auctions more recently and the prices are around the two I found for 1750 for similar condition. Going back to 2021 when covid was raging I see some went for 5 to 800 but these were not in all that good of condition compared to the two I found. I made an offer on one for 1k to a Heritage buyer who is open to reselling. Its similar to the ones I posted. I doubt they will take it, but you never know. Maybe they will make a counter offer.
I would discourage you from pursuing the "make an offer" option. The ask prices are usually significantly higher than recent auction prices. It seems like you want to buy a coin outright and are not interested in auction. In that case... good luck, and I wish you success.
I ended up getting this one and the seller reduced the price. The coin fit what I was looking for in this coin.
A extra like! I think that's a very good point and a difference between modern and ancient coins! With a modern coin you can often say, this is the type I want and this is the type I will buy now / tomorrow. With ancient coins, it is advisable and worthwhile to be patient, observe the market, watch the offers and auctions - sometimes lose an auction and then eventually get the right piece. Saying I want to buy this ruler and this type today and I want to buy it in 1-2 days often leads to bad deals. My opinion. My 2 Cents.
I did use those criteria. I looked at reputable sellers on eBay and what these have sold for and the condition. I looked on other sites like Vcoin, Heritage auctions on the for sale and sold for. The prices are not set. I.E. no in this condition in this day this will only sell for this amount. A slabbed very fine coin of this type sells for 1100 to 2k. It just depends on the auction. To find some great deal you have to spend a lot of time looking for one to fall through the cracks and you are waiting to jump in and catch it. I am sure there were some good deals to be had in Dec. of 2008 when everyone was focused on their 401k or Equities accounts, falling home price ect. You also have to consider how much time is your time worth? I don't have the time to spend all day every day going over the auctions to see where is the absolute best deal. I don't want to over spend, but there needs for me at least to be a cut off where I am looking and buying. Or it becomes work.
