Found and won a Julius Caesar lifetime denarius, at last!

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Well, at long last, after coming up short time and time again at auction, I finally won my desired Julius Caesar denarius, for €300 below my max bid. (€1,400 plus fees). These have gotten increasingly expensive.

    It checks off all my major criteria.

    Lifetime issue from 44 BC? ✅

    Caesar's name clear on the flan? ✅ (his titles are there too)

    Decent portrait? ✅

    No major problems apparent? ✅

    Fine or better? ✅

    OK, so it's got a somewhat irregular flan- some might even say "ragged"- but I can definitely live with that. Oh, and there’s a banker’s mark, too. But that’s not an issue, as far as I’m concerned.

    Now I lack only Vitellius to complete my Twelve Caesars collection. :)

    I won it in Elsen Auction 159, Lot 278.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice bold portrait & reasonable legends. Congrats on finally getting him.


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    Julius Caesar (February-March 44 B.C)
    AR Denarius
    Lifetime Issue
    O: Wreathed head of Caesar right; CAESAR downward to right, DICT PERPETVO upward to left.
    R: Venus Victrix standing left, holding Victory in outstretched right hand and vertical scepter in left; L • BVC[A] downwards to right. L. Aemilius Buca, moneyer.
    Rome Mint
    3.92g
    17mm
    Crawford 480/8; Alföldi Type XIV, 62–3, 67, and 69 (A13/R22); CRI 105; Sydenham 1061; RSC 23; RBW 1683.
     
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  4. Croatian Coin Collector

    Croatian Coin Collector Well-Known Member

  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

  6. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Nice! There's just something about a lifetime Julius Caesar coin...
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  7. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    Mine was minted after his assassination and is off-center to a distracting degree, but I like the bust and was also really happy to obtain the coin:

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  8. rasielsuarez

    rasielsuarez Active Member

    Adding a portrait JC is a bucket list item for any Roman coin collector so congratulations to all of you :- )

    I added mine just recently.
    Julius Caesar 2024-04-16.JPG
    Rasiel
     
  9. GarrettB

    GarrettB Well-Known Member

    Congratulations! A very nice coin. Great to see the DICT PERPETVO nice and clearly there, too - what a piece of history.
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Wow!
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Congrats man. My requirements were somewhat similar. I think it must be the summer how a few of these are "slipping through the cracks" pricewise.
     
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  12. stlnats

    stlnats Active Member

    Nice. Pretty much full lifetime title on the obverse and great portrait. Wouldn't mind at all replacing my piece with it. Congrats.
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    Wow! Congrats @lordmarcovan ! I think you got the same version as mine… issued 2weeks before his Execution…
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    Roman Imperiatorial
    Julius Caesar Lifetime
    P Sepullius Macer
    AR Denarius, 1st 2 weeks-Mar 44 BCE, 19 mm, 4.03g.
    Obv: CAESAR – DICT PERPETVO Veiled and wreathed head of Caesar R.
    Rev: P·SEPVLLIVS – MACER Venus standing l., holding Victory and sceptre resting on star.
    Ref: Syd 1074a Sear Imperators 107e Crawford 480-14 Rare

    - minted in last two weeks of his reign, or two weeks before he was assassinated.
    - veiled, as he held the offce of Pontifex Maximus for several years, and that office was very important to him personally.
    - wreathed... just short of being king... big no-no
    - DICT PERPETVO - yeah, he was a king... so Roman Republic inherently and culturally hated kings.
    - fairly difficult to capture with the star on reverse
    - reasonably centered with most/all devices and legends (this is not as important to me cuz its numismatic vs the intrinsic Historical impact.)

    Alföldi arranges Crawford 480 series coins in (44 BC) month order as follows:

    RRC 480/1, Buca - January
    RRC 480/2, DICT QVART - early February
    RRC 480/3/4/5, CAESAR IMP - late February
    RRC 480/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14, DICT PERPETVO - early to mid March
    RRC 480/17/18, CAESAR IMPER - late March
    RRC 480/19/20, PARENS PATRIAE - April
    RRC 480/15/16, MARIDIANVS - April
    RRC 480/21/22, CLEMENTIAE CAESARIS and Mark Antony - April
     
  14. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Congrats, very nice with great portrait.
     
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  15. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    I like the “ragged” flan.
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Yeah, agreed. I like that Ragged, Tattered, SHATTERED flan, its sexy like...

     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Thank you for that high school flashback. :p
     
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  18. Croatian Coin Collector

    Croatian Coin Collector Well-Known Member

  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  20. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    I wonder if someone in his legions saved the coin. Then years later, perhaps after Augustus, one of the Legionaire's children put it back into circulation.

    The banker's mark came from it then being an unfamiliar type at the time. I guess such a piece could circulate for perhaps 40 years? US Barbers (1892- 1915/6) disappeared from circulation in the 1950's I've heard. Many of those have far more wear than your Julius denarius.
     
  21. Amit Vyas

    Amit Vyas Well-Known Member

    Congratulations! I got my first one too recently (yet to be photographed). It is off-center, but the only one I could find that was relatively affordable.
     
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