Faustina Sr. Dupondus - My first

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Smojo, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    My first Dupondus added to my collection. I've spoke of it in some previous posts but wanted to wait until in hand to share.
    Not to long ago I shared my first Sesterius added to my collection. It was Faustina II, the daughter.
    So it seems fitting if not backwards that my first Dupondus is of Faustina I, the mother.
    She's a little rough in appearance but glad to have it in my collection.

    This is my third post this weekend, don't think I've ever done that. I'm so behind getting my new picks photographed, logged in & stored away.
    I like getting reactions from fellow CT'ers since most of you have been collecting ancients much longer than me.
    I'm still working on the attribute on this one also.

    Faustina I, Dupondus
    24mm, 11.33g, Rome after 141AD
    Obv; DIVA FAVSTINA AVG, Faustina draped bust right
    Rev; Concordia seated left, holding a statue of Spec
    RIC 1184
    (I still have some work to do on the attribute) a nudge in the right direction is appreciated or corrections.
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  3. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice one for a first go !

    My only bronze of hers, an as :

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    Diva Faustina Senior, As Posthumous issue, struck in Rome after 147 AD
    DIVA FAVSTINA, Draped bust of Faustina right
    AETER NITAS, Eternity standing left, holding Phoenix in right hand and her dress in left hand
    11.45 gr
    Ref : Cohen #13, RCV #4638

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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Cool addition, this is my first one.

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    Faustina Jr. (146 - 175 A.D.)
    Dupondius
    O:FAVSTINA AVG PII AVG FIL, Draped bust right.
    R: CONCORDIA/SC, Concordia seated left leaning on chair with left and flower in right. By chair, cornucopia on globe.
    Rome
    27.5mm
    13.9g
    RCV 4724 RIC 1393

    Published on wildwinds!
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Good pick up.

    Faustina 2.jpg
    FAUSTINA Sr
    AE Sestertius
    OBVERSE: DIVA FAVSTINA, draped bust right
    REVERSE: AVGVSTA. Cybele, wearing polos, seated left, holding drum in right hand and branch in left arm. SC in exergue
    Struck at Rome, 141-161 AD
    24.1g, 30mm
    RIC 1123

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    FAUSTINA Sr
    AE As
    OBVERSE: DIVA FAVSTINA, draped bust right
    REVERSE: AVGVSTA S-C, Ceres standing left holding torch & corn-ears
    Struck at Rome, 148-161AD
    13.5g, 27mm
    RIC 1171
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Smojo => congrats on snagging yourself a cool Faustina-I Dupondius (it is a very rugged lookin' example with some great tomboy eye appeal)

    :rolleyes:

    Sadly, I don't have any AE examples of this fine lady ... but I do have an AR example that wanted to get out and stretch her legs, so please try to be nice to this silver outlier

    Faustina Sr, AR Denarius (sweet hairdo)

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  7. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    :rolleyes:

    Yes she's a little rough, been rode a little hard.
    Hey what the hell, my letters are blue. I didn't change colors.

    As always you have a fine example Steve.

    But please turn my color back to black, I seriously didn't change my type setting.
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Arrrgggh => you caught a coin-disease from me!!

    :nurse:
     
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  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice,
    Heres my sestertius
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  10. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats Smojo, I think its an copper As , not a bronze Dupondius.

    Mother Faustina:
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    Daughter
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great pick up @Smojo ! Congrats...you are really smokin' it getting all these Ancients now!

    I only have a well worn denarius from Faustina Sr. that is now residing in the Alegandron Rest Home ... She fills a slot of my Roman Ruler Portraits series.

    RI Faustina Sr 138-140 CE AR Denarius m Antoninus Pius 17-4mm 3-2g O-R.jpg
    RI Faustina Sr 138-140 CE AR Denarius m Antoninus Pius 17.4mm 3.2g O-R.jpg
    Ex: @Brian Bucklan
     
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  12. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Worn is good. It only proves its been loved.
     
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  13. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Another nice pick up Smojo, I have a couple of her after she died as well, both with Faustina temple in the Roman Forum, a Sesterius 24.88gm, 33mm, RIC 1115. And a Denarius, 3.10gm, RIC 343. 2015-01-07 01.07.44-10.jpeg 2015-01-07 01.07.50-18.jpg
     
  14. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    My Faustina Jr. Sesterius
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    Not home so dont have attribute & info on phone
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree. What makes you opt for Dupondius? I don't have one of either.
     
  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Cool OP!!! I guess it isn't a dupondius???

    I have a dupondius and denarii of Fausta Jr but only a sestertius and a denarius of the elder...

    Below are two old photos of a sestertius of both Mom and daughter. A few mixed lot types I picked up decades ago and kept because no one else wanted to pay me anything for them LOL DSCF0713.JPG DSCF0714.JPG
     
  17. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Ok, so school me. The difference?
    I don't usually go with what the seller says, unless it's someone I know to be right if even then. Granted I've had a little difficulty with this one & that could be the reason.
    I know I'm incorrect having the AVG on the obverse attribute. I've yet to look up the RIC. 1184 also. I'm hear to learn. "Underneath this rugged exterior is a mind aching to learn" or something like that.


    Well Doug I like the Alexandrian Tets because they have a little meat on them. I have several. But sesterius & dupondus have size & meat. I wanted to add a few to my collection.
    There's other large types on my want list. I add these coins when I see them at a price I'm willing to pay for the few I want. I'm not going to go out of my way to get extravagant examples of these. Sometimes my curiosity & my want to expand my knowledge gets me to pay a small price to bring peace to my always active thoughts.
     
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  18. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    1184 is correct - there is no AVG in that legend. 1184 is also listed as "As or Dupondius", because in many cases, one just can't be sure.

    Depending on the period, their size and weight ranges can be about the same, and when you have a coin with a patina, you can't tell if the underlying metal is red (copper = As) or yellow (orichalcum = Dupondius).

    If I was looking to add an example of a dupondius to my collection, personally I'd opt for an issue with a radiate crown, a distinctive feature of the denomination for male rulers most of the time. There are dupondii without radiate crowns and asses struck in orichalcum, but if you see a radiate crown on one of these bronzes, at least you can be sure it's a dupondius.

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  19. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Still looking for a Diva with a radiate crown :joyful:

    Smojo, if you like size and meat go for the Sestertii

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  20. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Ok, cool. @Andres2 you're correct it is As. There's some chips in the patina mostly on the reverse. Under some good light & a 10x loupe the red-copper is evident.
    Thanks @zumbly for the insight.
    I already knew the AVG was wrong.
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Many coins of the period are really hard to tell even from the metal color because the yellow brass of the dupondius and red copper were mergening into some intermediate bronze by the middle of the century. Below are two orichalcum coins of Aurelius. The dupondius has the crown and the sestertius shows yellow. Black toned coins are a real problem.
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