Vespasian Dynastic Denarius

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  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    For a few brief years early in Vespasian's reign, Ephesus struck a small series of denarii. The reasons why this city struck imperial silver remain a mystery, but it is in perfect keeping with the general picture of early Flavian coinage just after the Civil War with several provincial mints coining imperial issues. It is also unknown why the Ephesian mint employed mint marks on their denarii. The marks themselves are a distinguishing feature and unique to this mint. Compared to Rome, these Ephesian issues were quite small and are fairly rare today. Style wise they are superb.

    My latest addition is a rare beauty and thanks to Hirsch speedily shipping one day after the invoice was paid, I can now share it.


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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.40g
    Ephesus Mint, 70 AD
    RIC 1420 (R3), BMC -, RSC -, RPC -
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS II TR P P P; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: LIBERI IMP AVG VESPAS; Titus and Domitian, togate, veiled, standing l., each holding patera in r. hand, l. hands at sides; in exergue, BY
    Ex Hirsch 323, 22 September 2016, lot 2390.

    This is an extremely rare Ephesus Group 4 denarius. When the new edition of RIC II was published in 2007 only one specimen was known of this dynastic type with mint mark in exergue. Since its publication, several other examples have come to light in addition to mine, bringing the total number of specimens to around a dozen. RIC makes a distinction between two different mint mark placings for this type: in exergue, as seen here, and between T & D.

    Struck in fine style with hints of gunmetal toning.
     
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  4. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Sweet coin vespasian, you must spend a lot of hours looking for these awesome coins! ;)
     
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  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Wow David, that is a superb coin. The portrait and the reverse are equally attractive. Nice catch!
     
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  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

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  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I couldn't agree more!!! That's such an incredible coin!! The style is indeed 'superb' !!!
     
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  8. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Not as often as I'd like!
     
  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    It's a great coin, I especially like the portrait.
     
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  10. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Like everyone else. The detail in the portrait is awsome.
    I've yet to find me a worthy Vespaian that someone else likes as much or more than I do.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is a nice one. I recently passed on one a bit lower VF grade (less sharp detail on the laurel leaves) but completely missing the BY due to centering and that is a deal breaker to me.
     
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  12. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    The denarii dated COS II should have either a horizontal Φ or BY. If the mint mark is not struck and assuming there is no reverse die match with a centred specimen, such a coin would be impossible to precisely attribute.
     
  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Fantastic coin @vespasian70, as usual the style on Ephesus coins is outstanding. But the plus here is the movement on the reverse : you see T & D as if they were dancing a duet

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    Magnifique !

    Q
     
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  14. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

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  15. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I have half a dozen examples of this type and all of them show a similar stance. It makes me wonder what prototype the engravers used to create the reverse - a statue, painting, or something else?

    Interesting to note this T&D type is unique to Ephesus (aside from a similar example struck at an unknown mint with the two princes holding scrolls).
     
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  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i love that reverse.....very nice V70!
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    atta-boy, V70 => total winner!! (congrats on that sweet OP-score)

    :rolleyes:

    ... yummy

    Oh, and I appreciated the cool dance-post by Q (that dude is fricken classy, eh?)
     
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  18. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    I never get tired of these dynastic types, another awesome addition David. Unfortunately they are very popular and I find myself ending up the bridesmaid and never the bride when bidding for them!
     
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