New Daniel Carr Morgan Dollar

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  1. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Neither does Dan. He clearly states they are non-legal tender, non-governmen issue, tokens using X design and overstruck on actual coins of said design. He doesn't call them coins however we do occasionally as a generic slip of the tongue term due to their host coin nature and similar design but with a fantasy date.
     
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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I go back and forth between considering them tokens or altered coins, but, ultimately it doesn't matter to me. I like most of what he's put out, although I didn't like the rendition of the faces on the Bessie Coleman and Sacajawea prototypes he struck.
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Came to mind when I thought about all of the 'jibs & jabs', 'parry, thrusts', 'low blows' and 'no decisions' that occur every time Daniels name comes up. :)

    Carry on.
     
  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Well, they may appreciate until they are declared illegal and seized for being counterfeits, or for not being marked in compliance with the HPA.

    No one is denying that he has talent. He has loads of talent. His talent is huge. He's just squandering it with these counterfeits. His *original* works are often quite attractive.

    Imagine Warhol or Picasso copying somebody else's work and claiming it as their own. They'd be laughed out of any respectable gallery.

    Imagine Picasso painting over a Renoir canvas, changing a few details, and selling it again. Again, he'd be ridiculed for the absurdity of it. Sorry, your comparisons just don't add up.
     
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    When are you going to law school to get a federal prosecutor job to try and make the case? Till then they wont.
     
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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Warhol for sure, I mean anyone that would paint a Campbells soup can.....
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    He didn't produce his own Campbell's soup.
     
  9. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    That one is not entirely an original design.
    Also, the mintage on it is 10,000 proof and 40,000+ UNC.
    That is a fairly high mintage for a private-mint item.
     
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  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Whatever makes you feel better, bro!
     
  11. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    Bernard Von Nothaus was actually convicted (wrongly so) of "counterfeiting". But none of his "Liberty Dollars" in collectors' hands were ever confiscated.

    Say that with a Donald Trump accent ;)

    Warhol painted Campbell's Soup can labels. He replicated and colorized photographs that weren't his (such as this one of Marilyn Monroe: http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/warhol-marilyn-diptych-t03093)

    Neither you nor I, nor any other individual gets to dictate what is, and what is not, "art".

    Not necessarily. Sometimes things are done in the art world to make a statement or to stir things up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)
     
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  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Warhol for sure, I mean anyone that would paint a Campbells soup can....."

    Key word: paint....
     
  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Warhol didn't steal the product. Actually, he advertised the product for them in a complementary way. Unlike DC who defaces the original, strikes a copied design not truly his own, and refuses to simply add a "C" to that "D" Mintmark. But we've heard all this before. It's like a partisan voter, who no matter what happens, never changes his/her mind.
     
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  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And this is supposed to mean what?
     
  15. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    But the design does belong to him, and to me and to you too ;)
     
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  16. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Best answer. Thread over.
     
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  17. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Dcarr correctly picked up on the fact that I was parodying the language Trump uses. It was satire.
     
  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I thought you were laying it on a tad thick*, but didn't catch it... Thanks.

    *edited for spelling
     
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  19. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Haha... no.
     
  20. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Yeah. People seem to forget that. Its like saying all the mattress & pillow companies can't use memory foam because it was created by a NASA contracted scientist
     
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  21. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Is the claim false? The design is public domain.
     
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