What would you grade this 1943 Washington Quarter?

This is a 1943 Washington Quarter that I picked up at the PNNA coin show on Saturday. I keep finding myself looking at it over and over. I personally think it is a potential monster. Enough so, that I may send it in to PCGS or NGC to get graded. But before I do something like that, I would like to get some of your opinions. This coin might be a good candidate for one of my animated GIF's, but for now, here's a couple of images.

Just to point out a few things. The line going from the eagle's wing to the M of UNUM is a small die crack. The small white lines on the eagle's breast are raised and are small die scratches. The white line coming off of the eagle's right wing tip is a die crack.

 

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67+

 

Nice coin 67

 

@jtlee321

What about the mark beneath Georgie's earlobe. Is it a scratch on the die or the coin?

I'm not familiar with the grading proclivities of PCGS or NGC where Washies are concerned, but it sure looks like it could be a 67+ or better to me.

Chris

 

I'm looking at what appears to be a mark on the reverse over the first "L" in "DOLLAR".
What's it look like in hand?

 

I'll bet an animated GIF would really showcase the die cracks. I think MS67 would be the basement.

 

Normally, I'm skeptical when people say "look at this super high grade coin, do you think it will get MS-73?"

However, I think this time you might have done it. I really don't see anything holding this back from at least 67. I really hope for your sake that it grades even higher.

Above 67, the price on this date has an incredibly steep jump, so a 67+ or a 68 is unlikely (67 is $450, 67+ is $2300, 68 is $14k).

So, yeah, this one is definitely worth sending in.

 

That line under George's earlobe is the seam between his jaw and neck. It's a specular highlight.

You sir, have an eagle eye!! I had to break out my loupe for attributing varieties to see that one. It appears to be a possible strike through by a hair, because of the way it does not reflect light. It does not optically behave like a scratch or a hit where metal would have been raised. It's kinda odd.

This quarter was in a flip labeled MS-65 which I usually take with a grain of salt, but when I looked at it under my 3X loupe at the show, I just couldn't see anything that would make it a 65. It was a no question set aside to purchase coin. I pulled a really nice '41 out as well that was marked as MS-64 on it's 2x2. That one in my opinion is right behind this on in quality. I've come across conservative graders, but this guy has really under graded some of his coins.

 

Thank you for your opinion. Coming from you, that really helps my confidence in sending it in. Part of the reasoning for starting this thread was because I looked at all the trueviews on PCGS's website of 1943 Washington Quarters. I started with the MS-67 images and compared them to this quarter in hand. I kept telling myself that this quarter is better than that. When I finally came across images that were comparable to this coin was in the MS-67+ range and even some of those were not quite as strong as the one I have. So I think this Washington is going to have to take a journey to Newport Beach or Florida here pretty soon.

 

I think "monster" works.

 

Assuming the luster is as good as it look, I don't see it as less than a 67. Great find!

 

Very nice WQ. 67ish.
Might be a FS-102 variety as well.
Check the LIB.

 

MS 67 here also another nice eye appealing coin.

 

I grade it MS-WANT. Nice coin. If it comes back any less than 67, your next submission should include a white cane and a pair of dark glasses for the grader.

 

Definitely a monster Washy. 67 for me. If you do send it in please report back. Beautiful coin, and congrats on the pick.

 

Here is an animation that shows the cartwheel luster and gives you a nice feel for the surfaces.

 

67 for sure. Hope I'm wrong and it grades higher for you. One nice coin!

 

Well I'd be very happy with a 67.

 

Am I hallucinating, or does this coin have lines all over the surface moving in 15,000 different directions. This is NOT what metal flow looks like.

I think the surfaces have been altered to say the very least.

 

The animated GIF file appears to show significant chatter on Washington's bust, which I think makes it max out at MS66. I would probably grade this piece MS65+ based on the newest image assuming that there are no problems.

With this said, I agree with @mikenoodle that the surfaces in the original photo look very odd to me, but I cannot quite put my finger on it. I hope it hasn't been lightly cleaned.