World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

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  1. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    1695 crown with SEPTIMO edge reading
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    1937 proof crown
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    1966 pattern crown by Anthony Foley
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    Charles I type 3 crown with mintmark triangle over anchor over tun on the obverse and triangle over anchor on the reverse.
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    A countermarked Lima 1794 8 reales.
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  3. chlorinated

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  4. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    I really liked your 1695, just a haresbreath away from uncirculated. Also your crown of the unfortunate Charles III - or was it Charles I?

    The Charles I is my favorite piece: it's very high grade for that type too. Do you have any estimate on the date? It looks contemporary with the King on Horseback pounds and half-pounds dated 1642-43.
     
  5. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    The Charles I 3a crown was struck sometime between 4th July 1639 and 26th July 1640, being the period when the triangle mark was current. The dies are both overmarked, with the obverse first being used in 'tun', which ran from 14th Feb 1636 to 8th May 1638, and was then overmarked for anchor, which replaced tun, before being overcut again for triangle. The reverse die was first used in the preceding anchor period.

    Triangle is a rare mark for this denomination with only a single obverse die and a pair of reverse dies (both triangle over anchor) used. No new dies were cut for the period. The coin above is Cooper dies XVII/XXIV, whilst the other combination is Cooper XVII/XXV, an example of which is shown below. Note the different positions of the reverse mark and legend which allows you to identify the variety in this instance.
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  6. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I have recently added 4 pieces that qualify. The 1st 2 are Malta 1757 30 Tari's. I have a thing for these and just purchased 2 of the scarcer varieties. The first one has edge writing and is one of 7 known.

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    The next 2 are additions to my German States Collection. The first one from Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel
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    Commemorative Thaler

    Clausthal. On the conquest of the city of Braunschweig.

    The 2nd one doesn't technically fit the topic because it is a medal but I hope no one minds me posting it.

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    Catalog: Mehl 676, Zepernick 145, Cappe 311.

    Diameter: 56.0 mm
    Weight: 43.67g

    Obverse: Mary enthroned on clouds with the baby Jesus points with a scepter to the monastery coat of arms floating in front of her, covered with a prince's hat, which rests on a decorated cushion with a cross and is decorated with a crook, sword and palm branch, above the Holy Spirit shown as a dove in rays, around coat of arms wreath

    Reverse: On a three-tiered dais with a canopy stands the bishop's chair, which is covered with the miter, in the background r. the Hildesheim Cathedral, above the divine eye of providence in rays, around heraldic wreath

    These are all seller photos.
     
  7. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    Great medal @Chris B ! Sede vacante medal issued by Hildesheim to commemorate the death of Clemens August of Bavaria in 1761. Medal also has connections to Cologne, Münster, Osnabrück and Paderborn.

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  8. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    Hamburg schauthaler of 1.5 weight (1635-68). Obv: Baptism of Christ in Jordan. Rev: The birth of Christ with Mary, Joseph, and shepard next to manger. Undated; struck by mint master Matthias Freude (his mint mark is on rev above angel). Classified as Gaed 1583 variety which acknowledges Otto Christian Gaedechen’s references on Hamburg talers published 1843, 1854 & 1876 1635-Hamburg-Baptism-AU58-both-1500dpi.jpg . 43.93g. 60 mm.
     
  9. What a great thread and such a pity that the last post was from nearly a year ago. Hello everyone - i hope you allow me to blow a bit of live into this thread. I'll share something as soon as i figure out how to share images.
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Looking forward to it! Welcome.
     
  11. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    OK - some GB Crowns I have added to my collection since the last picture posted:
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  12. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    ... and a few non-British Crown size examples, part of my "tangent" collection added since last October:
    Japan Y 1895 1-side.JPG Netherlands G W Friesland 1764 1-side.JPG France Ecu 1788 Bayonne 1-side.JPG France Notaries Medal 1979 1-side.JPG
     
  13. Arrival.jpg Obv.jpg Rev.jpg As promised... a week ago, i got a much awaited package from Monaco... it cost me a bit but considering how long I've hunted for a specimen of this type (in proof), I have no regrets.
     
  14. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Does this qualify?

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  15. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    The Malta pieces sure look like they have Italian influence, Tuscan to be specific. Nice score on those, wonderful coins.
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Wow! Impressive. The cameo contrast really makes that portrait pop.
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I think a lot of people consider any silver coin equal to or larger than 38 mm (which is the diameter of a US silver dollar, among other things) to be a “crown” coin, in the generic if not literal usage of the term.

    At 36 mm, I’d say that Austrian 2-florin is close enough.
     
  18. Austrian double florins or "doppelgulden" are indeed considered crowns. One of the foremost authorities on crowns, John S. Davenport, certainly considered them as such, assigning them with #27.

    I had the great fortune to recently participate in a kunker auction that featured many Austrian coins. It was a truly an advanced collection as the specimens there were of the HIGHEST caliber. There was a particular proof double florin I was eyeing and I fought hard for it, alas it hammered good bit above my max bid of 2,500Eur. Check this beauty out: Double Gulden.jpg
     
  19. It was a most disappointing loss but that is what makes the game great and makes one cherish the treasures we do have. While I lost the above double florin, I did walk away with the this gem: a proof thaler:

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  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

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