Two very old gold coins

MY point is that it is very likely the sellers scales were off by .06 grams, and that the coin is actually 3.50g. I don't know whether GD's statement about the accuracy of the mints is true or not.

 

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me and my brother when we were kids (in the 70's) we used to bury certain treasure like objects in the ground all the time. We were big treasure hunters. Maybe you found our old buried treasure?

I think what GDJMSP was trying to tell you was that the look of the coin itself is suspect. That there are certain indications that point to the coins being fake, like the surface with those uniform bumps, etc. It's not that this is your first post and we don't know you to trust you, your coin is being graded by experts who have experience with the same types of coins you have. They are simply answering from their knowledge and not reflecting upon your character or 'trustworthyness'.

Please post close ups.

 

rad 1964 - what is "close ups",photos with more detail?

sorry but English is not my mother language and i do not live in english speaking country.
i understand almost everything,but there some words that i ve never seen before,so that why i am asking....

 

Jakal,

rad1964 is talking about taking a large picture of a specific area of the coin or most of the coin by getting the Camera closer to the coin or zooming in! See the pictures below. The first is a normal...full subject image and the second is a closeup.


Frank

 

Jakal: What is your native language? Maybe someone here can help you with the difficult words or we can look them up together.

'Close up' photos are also sometimes referred to as 'Macro' photos or 'Macro' Photography, which are detailed images taken of a subject at close focal range. Makrofotografie in German or макро-фотография in Russian for instance.

Here's a simple do-it-yourself (DIY) link on macro-photo techniques:
http://metaldetectingworld.com/coin_photography.shtml

 

krispy - my native language is Czech , dont worry i know how to make macro pictures,instead of this set up you posted here i am using tripod

 

Awesome! Thanks for all the pics and details so far. I've really been enjoying seeing your finds.

 

coins just came back from jeweller and ....... they are made from nearly pure gold,we have found 1 more so that is about 19g of nearly pure gold taken from the ground .......:thumb::thumb::thumb:

 

To je děsivý!

 

Very nice! Congrats...:mouth:

 

Jakal congrats on the purity of the gold. But as far as the coins authenticity I would have to agree with Doug. I have been on this site for over 4 years and I have found that there are more then a few people here on this site that knows what they are talking about and if Doug tells you that a Chicken can pull a wagon, then hook it up!

 

ty jsi cech ? :high5:

taky si myslis,ze jsou to kopie?

 

China

A bit ago there was a cable progam I believe on the History International channel.
In China you may duplicate any coin of any material before 1949 legally.
There is a young man with some help who has a thriving business and smiles a lot when he shows his work.
I imagine there are many like him in China N/Korea and some of the old easten block countries.
My daughter was employed at the Embassy in Budapest about six years ago. She indicated you could buy quit good replicas of most anything. FEG which is like the GE Hungary makes everything from small appliances to arms
motor bikes and a host of look alike items but slightly different in design. Most all is very good.

Pep

 

jakal,

Congrats on all of the finds and the fact that the Gold coins were produced from real...high purity Gold!

There is one point that I want to make that I neglected to talk about earlier! That point, is the well known fact that there were many Counterfeiters in Europe in the 17th and 18th Centuries and I believe as far back as the 16th Century. Some of these Counterfeiters are very well known today for their works, while many more were not. It is reasonable to think that the person or persons that buried the coins that jakal and friend found, obtained all of the coins thinking that they were genuine. That, in their' mind, they were burying a treasure for them or family members to draw upon during hard times or as an inheritance. That due to wars, skirmishes and other strife in the area during the same time periods above, the owner or owners may have been killed or incapacitated and never devulged the whereabouts of the treasure and the coins were long lost until jakal and friend came along. Considering the amount of treasures lost and wrote or whispered about in the Americas with it's fairly short history, it is reasonable to think that the amount of treasure lost in Europe would be 10x to 100x or more considering it's much longer history!


Frank

 

I wonder what the final determination was for these coins? Were they ever authenticated?

Four gold coins found in Hungary in 2019-2020. One of them was a Mathias I. gold coin: https://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/60514

 

Aw, man, couldn't you have waited a few more weeks, and revived this thread on its 15th birthday?

 

I waited 14 years and 9 months to post this, do not ruin it!

just curious who made an ass out of himself at the end?!

 

Numista has the Matthias florin weighing 3.54g