Looking for a safe

How about the practical solution - Get a Sentry safe, put salica packs in it and attach the safe to the floor? You have safety and you can look at your collection when you want to.

 

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Sentry products are not safes. They are lock boxes, some being fire rated. Sentry products can be broken into within minutes (some within seconds) by common burgers with basic tools.

 

I have a GuardAL safe or its Guardall one of them,but I recently took the safe door in for service to the inside locking mechanism and the locksmith said these are one of the best safe manufactures out there. They are based in Syracuse,NY. Really,nice,heavy duty safe. I also have one where I am working at now, used to be a fishing store called Meltzers in Garfield,NJ. Anyway old school safe is in there,owner said if you can haul it out,its whoevers.

 

I have a Liberty Safe. It's about 700 lbs or so. One hour fire rating. Internal hinges. 11 gage steel. It's very substantial. I've been happy with it overall except now I wish I I bought the next step up.


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The best way to but a safe is by the TL rating. Most insurance companies require a TL-30 rated safe, but you can get them to accept a TL-15. Be sure the safe you buy is also fire rated. You can buy a used safe from locksmiths or safe companies.

A rated safe is going to be VERY heavy.

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Something I did 3 years ago I don't know if your home owner but I took my guest bedroom pulled the carpet back in the closet rented me a concrete saw I cut me a 4 by 4 section out cost me $80 including the concrete poured me a new slab inside bought me a $200 safe all my valuables go in that jewellery coins cash Etc my home got broken into years ago they stoled my TVs my DVD players but they never found the safe under the carpet in the spare bedroom they did go through the closet looking for valuables but with all the shoes and things on the floor they never look under that carpet just an idea but you have to be homeowner to do that

 

The problem is that your insurance may not cover you if you do not have an adequate safe. Call them and see. If you don't have insurance you should get it. Very cheap and gives peace of mind. I am very happy with our company and rep. If you need a referral send me a PM with your name and telephone number and I will pass it on to him.

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I think there is another valid security point that hasn't been mentioned. You need to understand the response of law enforcement with regards to your alarm system. Most police departments respond to thousands of false alarms a year. About 98 or 99 percent of their alarm calls are false alarms. People accidentally set them off all the time, alarms malfunction, etc. Most departments these days are also severely understaffed. Recruiting cops these days is difficult. The officer responding to your alarm will be driving normally with no lights or sirens. He or she may be on a more emergent call resulting in your alarm pending until an officer is available. There is an easy way to expedite their response in the event of an actual burglary that started with your alarm going off. Buy a camera system that can be viewed in real time on your smart phone. When you receive notification of your alarm going off, check your cameras for a burglary in progress. If there is one, call your departments dispatch to inform them. You will now have several officers responding as quickly as possible.

Owning a large dog is a great deterrent to burglaries. Keeping your mouth shut about your collection is the best deterrent. A group of experienced and motivated burglars could access most safes as well. Hiding your collection in a place most burglars won't look is a great idea. Just don't tell anyone where it is! They all will look in your safe if possible. That's usually 1 of the first places they will go.

 

I can recommend a good self installed alarm system which yoy can add cameras to. I am not home, if anyone is interested I can reply later tonight.

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Unfortunate you did not have a floor safe installed when the house was being built.

 

That is some good advice about limiting knowledge of collection.
I was robbed a few years ago and the cops in my town literally spent only 2 months keeping case open,before I got an email saying they closed the case. I responded with how can you close anything if it hasn't been solved. They didn't even reply.
Right from the start they seemed dis interested and thought it was someone I knew or family,I didn't keep my doors locked and that was all they needed to hear. It was a terrible feeling about 10K lost.
Anyway I now have a safe and lock my doors,but am still worried when I am away for longer then a day.BTW insurance for Coins & Collectibles is additional on most HomeOwner policies and is not cheap.
Best of Luck to you all...

 

Your case was administratively closed. This means they exhausted all leads or possible leads and have no where else to go with your case. This is different than simply being closed. Admin closed cases can be reopened at anytime pending a further lead or evidence. It's frustrating but the truth is not all crimes are solved or able to be solved. Coin thefts are especially hard to solve because tracing a specific coin is difficult when thousands or millions were produced. Even slabbed coins with cerification numbers can be removed from their prospective slabs.

 

Raw circulated coins have an advantage here because marks and wear are almost never the same from coin to coin. If you have good pictures of your coins and they are stolen, assuming you give local coin and pawn shops, and law enforcement those pictures, chances are better for your collection to be returned and the culprit arrested. Most coin store owners I know check stolen coin photos when someone brings coins in to sell. Just a thought.

 

I see where your going but you would have to be able to swear under oath, in a court room in front of a judge, that this specific coin is indeed the same coin which was stolen. By doing so, you would be committing perjury if you weren't completely sure and did so. Even if you thought you were sure a defense attorney would have a field day with your testimony.

If you had great pictures to compare the coin to they would have to be sent to some court approved expert to verify if possible. That would entail a lot of time, money and resources. If the coin was taken during a violent crime those resources would probably be spent if possible but a simple theft, probably not.