Most important factor for IDEAL TPGS?

The problem is that the OP's scenario doesn't prove what is sought to be proven, i.e. that speed of return is important. What it DOES prove is that if you have no counterweighting factor against which to hold it, then yes, speed is good. That's all it proves, and I submit to you it is self-evident, and not in need of proof. The concept of "important" requires weighing it against another factor, for only then can we escape the realm of "good" toward the new higher ground of "better", perhaps to scale the lofty heights of "best". SOMEBODY wants to "prove" a factor is "important", but failed to set up a question that is even relevant to the inquiry.

Bottom line: attempt to ask people a question that makes no sense in investigating what it attempts to investigate, and there are only two types of appropriate responses - 1) people who will argue with your premise, and 2) idiots. (Now, if an earlier poster wants to include the military in that second class, I'll not dissent.)

The OP's THREAD TITLE says "Most important", and the question as posed is utterly useless in that regard. "Most important" would require including ALL possible competing factors, not only one or a few, but the OP wants to exclude ALL. Caramba!

 

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@ V. Kurt Bellman has simplified things.

"The problem is that the OP's scenario doesn't prove what is sought to be proven, i.e. that speed of return is important. What it DOES prove is that if you have no counterweighting factor against which to hold it, then yes, speed is good. That's all it proves, and I submit to you it is self-evident, and not in need of proof."

Exactly, that's the self-evident point I tried to make; yet several (not CT members) could not make this (what I thought) simple conclusion.

"The concept of "important" requires weighing it against another factor, for only then can we escape the realm of "good" toward the new higher ground of "better", perhaps to scale the lofty heights of "best". SOMEBODY wants to "prove" a factor is "important", but failed to set up a question that is even relevant to the inquiry."

"Bottom line: attempt to ask people a question that makes no sense in investigating what it attempts to investigate, and there are only two types of appropriate responses - 1) people who will argue with your premise, and 2) idiots. (Now, if an earlier poster wants to include the military in that second class, I'll not dissent.)

"The OP's THREAD TITLE says "Most important", and the question as posed is utterly useless in that regard. "Most important" would require including ALL possible competing factors, not only one or a few, but the OP wants to exclude ALL. Caramba!"

THANKS! Looks like I'm responsible for not wording the OP correctly.

 

What could be the possible counter-argument to "speed is good"? Something like, "When we take longer, submitters will know we studiously examined their coins and were careful with them"? C'monnn, maaannnn!

 

Why is it that you are afraid to mention my name as that poster?

No, I did not put the military into any group. You did! I merely pointed out that if those serving in the military decided to do whatever they wanted rather than follow orders, the UCMJ would be useless.

You don't like the way @Insider posed his hypothetical exercise. Big deal. You're no different from many of the other members when they object to someone's opinion about this coin or that coin, or this definition of that definition. People argue about the dumbest darn things rather than go along with the program to learn the end result.

All he did was ask a "what if" but instead of participating in the experiment with his parameters, he gets a bunch of AWOL's wanting to do it their way. It's totally ridiculous. The next time I choose to sway from the guidelines of a particular topic, I don't want to hear one of you whine about it.

Chris

 

Depends on whether or not the cat is dead when you open the box.

 

Yes, Chris, I did intentionally malign the military/UCMJ mindset. I meant to. It's idiotic, and I really did like the movie A Few Good Men. The military mindset is the major reason I never served.

In this case, "going along with the program" is idiocy on steroids.