wondering if i sent this in with a lot of hairlines (hoping correct term ). thinking too many,but if not might be good to get it graded. only the worst are visible to the naked eye. would be happy to keep raw but thinking of the future and that a cert might not be a bad thing. can't tell whats going on after the Y.
no sign of any kind of polish marks only what looks to be cloth rub marks across the entire surface like it might might have been wiped clean. should i have said it is a proof strike?
From the Y all the way down to the 7 on the date there are striation marks signaling that it has been cleaned. Looking at the obverse and the reverse, they look like two different coins, the Luster is way off.
Most members would be able to ascertain it is a proof, but stating it is a proof is generally done at the start of a post. I see the hairlines of which you speak, but I don’t think it would trigger a “details” moniker upon submission for grading. I think it would get MS64 and exceeds the minimum criteria to justify slabbing…imo…Spark
The lines you see in the obverse field are not hair lines or scratches of any kind. Those are die polish marks. The way to tell the difference is die polish marks stop at or appear to go under the device or the motto. Scratches including hair lines usually go across a device or motto. The random scratches seen on the neck and pony tail are just that. Random scratches. The striations are not the result of cleaning. Rather they are the result of a worn die. JMO
Oh hail yes, let sleeping dogs lie unmolested. I am always amazed at some of the slabs I've seen, top 3 TPGs, with hairlines straight graded MS +. The only real way I know if they pass muster is to roll the dice and submit them for grading. (within reason, some are abominations and raked).
I understand what you are saying but when die polish lines get published here, consensus is always WIPED!
When I was building my Proof set collection of the pieces from 1936 to 1942, I learned that it is very hard to judge these coins from photographs. Some of them are obviously good or obviously bad, but, for most of them it's not as easy as it is with business strike and coins in the circulated grades. The coin in the OP is obviously a Proof, but I don't know if the shine around Washington's head is the Proof surface or a polished surface. That's why I posted "details" or PR-64 as the possible grades. The piece has too many hairlines to be anything above PR-64. There is also a patch of marks on the right side of the obverse under the "Y" in "LIBERTY." It has been my experience that those are contact marks that come from the Proof dime laying over the quarter when the cellophane bags are stapled together. I've see this most often on sets from 1950 to box 1955 sets.
