Coins you would never buy raw without authentication?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Eric White, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. Ericred

    Ericred Active Member

    Will do
     
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  3. Ericred

    Ericred Active Member

    ok, I'll admit it, what is the BST SECTION or where is it located? I've been on this site for months but I'm pretty new or have gotten serious about coin collecting only this past year before I just collected information about coins, foreign, American, new, old, compositions etc. I talk to much
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    https://www.cointalk.com/forums/for-sale/
     
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  5. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    Anything valuable
     
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  6. planman2014

    planman2014 Active Member

    Considering how many fake PCGS holder 1893-s and 1889-cc Morgans I need thoes coins to be double and triple authenticated to buy them.
     
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  7. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    I agree, with the 8 reales even the real ones look fake :)
     
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  8. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Have you ever heard of a counterfeit 1864-S $10?
     
  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    There is nothing I won't buy raw. There are circumstances under which I won't purchase at all, but this hobby is about knowledge. That means knowing how to authenticate a coin as much as knowing how to authenticate a buyer.

    If I but something that turns out to be counterfeit, it's immaterial because I'll have bought it from a seller who would willingly take it back. And it would likely be a good enough counterfeit to contemplate keeping anyway.
     
  10. Jason Hoffpauir

    Jason Hoffpauir Avid Coin Collector

    The one that comes to mind right off the bat is of course, the Trade Dollar...there are just too many fakes out there.
     
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  11. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    This one, which I won - and paid to have authenticated after I couldn't find it, but the "coin expert" they claim they are said the mint mark is there. Cost me express grading fees at ANACS, and I'm livid. And I partially blame myself for not just sending it back and calling it bunk before grading.

    1911-D Quarter Eagle which is a rare date. It was a risk, and I knew better, but I've been trying to complete my Quarter Eagle collection, and this was just the low cost "details" coin I was looking for.

    I did return it, but the grading fees I'm out leave me feeling bitter about the whole thing after trying to believe him.

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:o_O

    Fuzzy pictures and no indication of the D mint mark.

    For the record - you might want to add this seller to your list of scammers to avoid on ebay.

    robscoins87

    www.ebay.com/itm/122100916740
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2016
  12. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    1916 D Din=mes and 1909 S VDB's come to mind but it depends on the circumstances for the S-VDB. I can catch most of the bad ones. The 16 D is another story especially in AG.
     
  13. I am new to cointalk so if I am not replying correctly forgive me . I only buy "high end" raw coins from one source on line I trust and one local dealer I trust . The local dealer is a older gentleman that has been in business since the 1950's , with that said he keeps a 1899 Black Eagle in his show case it is counterfeit and he bought before taking it out of the sleeve . Caveat emptor
     
  14. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    1893 S and 1994 Morgan
     
  15. statesman

    statesman Member

    Only certified coins will I purchase.. I DO Prefer NGC 2ND CHOICE WOULD BE PCGS.
     
  16. Roygbiv

    Roygbiv Member

    NGC: Not encapsulated , questionable authenticity. Sigh...
    Trade A.jpg Trade B.jpg
     
  17. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I'll go with only buying slabbed CCs period.

    Thanks for the heads up.
     
  18. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    When 3rd party grading first began to make waves, I decided to get any coin certified for which I paid $50 or more. Now I want to have all my coins in reputable slabs (i.e., ANACS, NGC, PCGS). The main reason is to make sure that my heirs, who are neither sophisticated about numismatic material nor interested in becoming so, won't have a lot of difficulty selling my coins if they decide to do so. I also have provided my spouse with the name of a reputable dealer to approach and the names of disreputable dealers to avoid.
     
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  19. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Basically my philosophy. Unless we get a heads up on our pending demise, which I doubt any of us really want, we won't be there to protect them.
     
  20. Roygbiv

    Roygbiv Member

    NGC: Not encapsulated , questionable authenticity. Sigh...

    The pictures are scanned and I played a bit with the colors. The coin is
    shiny silver.
     
  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    The 16-D Mercury Dime and the 1877 Indian Head Cent, as well as the 1911-D Gold Indian are coins that I would always hesitate to buy raw.

    and I would never recommend that anyone buy a 1916-D Mercury Dime raw. Even experts can have a difficult time authenticating them.
     
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