What's the value of this 1818 Bust quarter?

There is a current auction on David Lawrence Rare Coins, at the time of this post, that includes this 1818 Bust Quarter graded by CAC as G details, with a cleaned designation. The coin looks like it's been properly cleaned, as it would take an expert like CAC to tell. I personally have an 1871 half dime like that.

The current bid is $7 and I've been watching it. The NGC Price Guide says resell value could be about $200 for a problem-free example, but what do you think is the value of this piece?

Any info would help, as I am hoping to properly distinguish the difference in value between cleaned coins.

Here's the coin: https://davidlawrence.com/auctions/lot/750770

 

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I like to value my coins at about 50% less for cleaned coins. I wouldn't pay more than $50- $70. Just my opinion... Sal.

 

That sounds quite good to be honest. Hopefully I can get it quite cheap, as many of those coins can trade for way less no matter the cleaning severity.

Hopefully everyone sees "Cleaned" and ignores it, but if that was the case, we'd get cleaned certified high grade examples for chicken feed!

 

How that got a cleaned designation I don't know id call an original circam g-4 I see nothing cleaned about it

 

Likely it's the rainbow toning where the coin is not lustrous. Rainbow toning generally occurs on lustrous coins like XF-45 and above, and even more so on coins that grade AU58 and above. I agree that it doesn't look cleaned, but CAC does have expert graders, so I do trust them.

 

Definitely a nice CIRCAM.

 

It'd honestly be cool if it got a PR-4 CAM. However, I do believe that that dark toning compared to the rainbow toning is why they gave it a cleaned designation. Lots of coins that have naturally dramatic toning are very lustrous, but this one is.... not.

By the way, talking about a circam, I have a steel cent with those looks! You'd think it was a proof if you didn't know that 1943 saw not a single proof penny.

 

I think that there is some much heavier than acceptable lines running vertical on the coin. Old cleaning and toned over, but still harshly cleaned. The photos are hiding it.
By the way Halfdime. Circam is circulation cameo not meant to be mixed with a worn PF Cam

 

I've actually been researching about both topics, and while that quarter looks good, if you dig deeper, it looks quite harshly cleaned. I've seen some that literally look so much like a raw coin that it can even get past PCGS, NGC, or even ANACS as problem-free.

Also, what I meant about the steel penny was that it is circulated but has a strange cameo-like contrast. It may not be a proof, but it would likely be called prooflike at a company. My guess is for circulated, AU58PL, or for uncirculated, MS61 or 62 PL because of very weak luster.

 

Sounds replated. This should have a matte look when unc. or AU.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1943-1c/2711

 

Okay, now you've got me curious. I wonder if CAC has ever beaned a coin in a PCGS or NGC Details slab?

I really didn't expect CACG to slab details coins. I guess I should have.

 

The CAC helps but the G Details Cleaned does not. I would not go anywhere near the 200 mark. Be smart stay low, if you win good if you don't oh well. Good luck.

 

What does "properly cleaned" mean?

 

Properly cleaned means that you can barely, or sometimes not at all, tell it's been cleaned. Sometimes, properly cleaned coins fool even the experts.

 

Well.......if that is what it means to you, then that is all that is important.

I appreciate the explanation.

 

Quoting (kind of) Doug, @GDJMSP , "If you can't tell if it has been cleaned, it has been properly cleaned".

 

They did not just slab it, they added a green sticker (yeah I know, it’s not a real sticker ;-)

 

I think it's a conservative grade even being cleaned. Yes, the "soapy water" rainbow toning is a dead giveaway. Still, I'd feel comfortable closer to the $50 SensibleSal stated as I've seen worse sell for more.

 

Honestly I've seen a cleaned coin sell for as much as an uncleaned one. Hopefully this won't happen with whizzed coins, though.

 

Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it but with that said if
you like it, go for it ! even at max value
it’s still not allot of money