Wash your hands

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by SanClem, Sep 17, 2016.

  1. SanClem

    SanClem Member

    Ever since my pocket piece (a cull Morgan dollar) left me for a hotel maid, I had the idea of replacing it with a large Roman AE. But since I run on unleaded I never pulled the trigger, having read that the Romans sometimes used leaded bronze after the 2nd century.

    My understanding is lead on hands isn't dangerous as long as you keep them away from your face and food. Since I incessantly fiddle with my pocket piece -- out of the pocket(!) -- I need a lead-free one to avoid becoming the topic of an after-school special. When I came into some leftover lead test swabs I thought, here's my chance.

    The 3M lead test swabs don't tell you exactly how much lead is present, but there is a relative gradation between pink (enough lead to be considered "dangerous") to maroon ("call the hazmat team"). My test candidate was a late 3rd century bronze. Pink. So they worked. They also stained the coin, so important lesson there.

    I had lots of damaged 1st and 2nd century candidates, so I kept testing until I ran out of swabs (they're designed to be single-positive, but you can get multiple uses out of each swab by cracking them open and applying the fluid directly as long as you do it quickly.)

    Here's the results: every As, Dupondius, and Sestertius I tried contained at least a pink level of lead, and virtually all quickly turned dark maroon. Ironically, the 3rd century test piece fell in the lower lead group.

    My takeaways were: 1) no Roman bronze pocket piece, 2) a red stain on a cull doesn't improve its appearance, and 3) a reminder to wash hands after touching bronze coins.
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Why an ancient as a pocket piece? There are far less ancient coins than almost any date of US coins. Seems a shame to waste an ancient that way.
     
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  4. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    What a scurrilous lass to leave you for a hotel maid!
     
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  5. SanClem

    SanClem Member

    All the candidates were purpose-bought damaged culls. I liked the idea of giving one a new lease on life as a coin.
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, considering that I used to roll mercury around in my hand and fold and tear random pieces of lead metal that my dear ol' dad left laying around his cool construction projects, I'm not too worried that'll I'll get sick from a 2000 year old AE coin (ummm, although I did have cancer when I was in my 30's ... hmmm?)

    regardless, I would love to have a pocket-piece, or even better => a golf ball marker that was one of my cool ol' AE bronze babies!! (great idea)

    => oooow, I know just the piece that would be fricken "perfect"

    Marcus Griffin a.jpg Marcus Griffin b.jpg
     
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  7. SanClem

    SanClem Member

    Beauty!

    I remember doing that with the mercury they gave us to play with in chem class. Lots of us walked around all day with mercury coated rings. Good times.
     
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  8. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I have a page that shows the alloy composition, with lead percentages, of some Constantinian bronzes -- http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/metallurgy/

    I don't believe that there is actually anything to be concerned about though, short of ingestion...so do not eat LRB's :dead:
     
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  9. SanClem

    SanClem Member

    Great page. Did you do that with an XRF gun? The source I read said pb could reach 33%, now I'm wondering how accurate that is based on this data.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    A wench and wanton.........
     
  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I've been handling bullets and fishing weights my entire life and, uh...wait, what were we talking about?
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Yeah, when I fish and shoot, it is like the Ancient Greeks storing their coins between their cheek and gum...
     
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